I don't know how anyone can think that ledge regrab invulnerability is a good thinghttps://twitter.com/TSM_Leffen/status/1068565095335243777 …
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No disrespect intended, im genuinely curious. Can you explain to me please how a ledgedash that grants ~15 frames of actionable intangiblility does not give stage control or at least reset neutral? What exactly is the counterplay to that?
it might be hard to visualize, but regular fighting games have the same thing with invincible reversals. Biggest thing is that you know when and where they are going to be where the invincibility ends, so you can put up a move that will hit exactly as invincibility ends.
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And even if there is counterplay, its hard and if you do get hit youre off stage in melee, so the risk reward is still often terrible. regrabbing edge to mixup timing is aldo extremely risky for most chars as well, get hit out of your dj and you probably die. Also its ~9 frames-
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For humans using fox, and theres a big sd/messup risk even then. other chars have better risk reward but get less ground/less invincibility. The edge is not a adv pos at any level of melee outside of puff and specific %
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