Because its a 5 frame window and you have to do so many inputs that can waste frames (shine - jc - wavedash -dash - hold till run - shine) and this is assuming you go for a one frame link to begin with, which is inherently inconsistent w polling...
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen @FictionIRL
This is not counting staling and hitconfirming and deciding which way they will go after a drill sdi for example. Not even close to worth practicing imo, since its rarely even possible and theres better alternatives with far less drawbacks and practical execution.
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen @FictionIRL
And LOL at reacting to double sdi with tilting the stick, sorry man but that aint happening.
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
hmm, maybe if they SDI hard inwards you can just uair or do another punish, and then use the running shine on SDI away
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Antwort an @FictionIRL
Not possible to react with uair for sure, remember you have to dash the first possible frame...
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
yeah you're probably right about the uair, I shoulda said utilt, just meant you could react to him not moving as far and get a good punish, since thats the whole point of the running shine anyway. Dash 1st frame for what?
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Antwort an @FictionIRL
You have to aim to dash the first possible after a perfect waveshine to get the running shine. Utilt is not possible unless youre talking pivots.
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
You don't have to dash on the perfect frame. its easier than you're making it out to be tbh. I'll do some testing on different SDI inputs
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Antwort an @FictionIRL
...well if you don't then its frames lost, and you have to realize exactly what frame the dash starts (and exactly what frame you both jump cancel and wavedash) or the following inputs will be off, you will hold down too late or too early for the run cancel etc.
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
I have waveshine -> dash in my muscle memory down pretty tightly. All It feels like I have to do is time the shine correctly. If its the only thing that makes the combo game better I think someone will eventually be able to execute it consistently
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Its literally random w polling, and staling + hitconfirming. I could easily go frame by frame on ur waveshines/wds in matches and ud realize that perfect wavedashes are WAYY rarer than u think. And thats the thing, this is rarely possible cuz stage length and theres other options
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
the nice thing with the running shine is because you don't need to have a perfect wavedash. I really don't think its random. I'm awful at perfect wavedashes tbh. Its effective when shining out of the corner on most stages
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Antwort an @FictionIRL
... U do, or it at least needs to be very consistently the same timing, or your dash/run cancel will be off...
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