My new video is out! The focus is on fox's shine combos versus marth, and some new stuff that I don't think is known yet! Hope you enjoy! The video took a lot of work.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk-0DW8RGuY …
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Antwort an @FictionIRL
Not really practical way to get the second shine, much better imo to aim for full length wavedash walk-shine (notches/momentum) or dash f1 aerial shine Overall the reward isnt worth it/only very rarely do you have enough stage, but I think 1 extra shine and go for nair/fthrow
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
Why is it not a practical way to get the 2nd shine? The window is not that hard. I think you're undervaluing how much you could get out of a utilt in either direction after the shine where you get behind him
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Antwort an @FictionIRL
Because its a 5 frame window and you have to do so many inputs that can waste frames (shine - jc - wavedash -dash - hold till run - shine) and this is assuming you go for a one frame link to begin with, which is inherently inconsistent w polling...
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen @FictionIRL
This is not counting staling and hitconfirming and deciding which way they will go after a drill sdi for example. Not even close to worth practicing imo, since its rarely even possible and theres better alternatives with far less drawbacks and practical execution.
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen @FictionIRL
And LOL at reacting to double sdi with tilting the stick, sorry man but that aint happening.
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
hmm, maybe if they SDI hard inwards you can just uair or do another punish, and then use the running shine on SDI away
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Antwort an @FictionIRL
Not possible to react with uair for sure, remember you have to dash the first possible frame...
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
yeah you're probably right about the uair, I shoulda said utilt, just meant you could react to him not moving as far and get a good punish, since thats the whole point of the running shine anyway. Dash 1st frame for what?
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You have to aim to dash the first possible after a perfect waveshine to get the running shine. Utilt is not possible unless youre talking pivots.
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
You don't have to dash on the perfect frame. its easier than you're making it out to be tbh. I'll do some testing on different SDI inputs
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Antwort an @FictionIRL
...well if you don't then its frames lost, and you have to realize exactly what frame the dash starts (and exactly what frame you both jump cancel and wavedash) or the following inputs will be off, you will hold down too late or too early for the run cancel etc.
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