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Tilt from neutral gets delayed by a frame from deadzone. The smash turn values themselves aren't changed

Wouldn't this affect dropping from the ledge with back? This is the issue I felt when I played with it at tmt.

This is one of those edge cases where I should defer to Hax/Simple to make sure I don't get it wrong

But if I'm not mistaken, if you don't make it to smash zone in 1f then you could get a 1f delay (which for some characters could work in your favor by making the 5f LD more achievable w/ that method I think?). You might wanna learn a better ledgedash method either way.

Wtf this is a huge dealbraker lmao. Ledgedashing is too precise for this to be overlooked. And I know @TSM_Leffen ledgedashes with back, don't know what you're on about with it being a bad method.

https://twitter.com/ssbmhax/status/1034524115519070208 … Leffen uses back but it's still a bad method