edgeguarding, proper kill options, less focused on 50/50 airdodge reads, proper whiff punishing, unique viable characters, theyve fixed some of my problems with smash 4 but the core gameplay is still largely the same, im hopeful it can keep changing though.https://twitter.com/zerowondering/status/1015626441260707841 …
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
1. with almost certain instant death if you air Dodge off stage (or you're required to recover OD low) how aren't there good edge guarding options? Although there are magnet hands it is much harder to get on the stage after grabbing the ledge compared to Melee.
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Antwort an @VGBC_GimR
most chars can recover from 1 airdodge easily with doublejump + up b, and since magnet hands makes it really stupid to edgeguard low recoveries some chars just dont get edgeguarded a lot. ledgetrapping is honestly incredibly dull and a bad replacement for good edgeguarding/oki
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
You can edge guard people who have to double jump up-B. Magnet hands won't save them in that situation.
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Antwort an @VGBC_GimR
doing that while also forcing them to airdodge is hard and unlikely, and trying to hit a rising up b with huge sweetspot with hitbox and no good spikes like melee/64 is extremely hard
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
When recovering you attack where they HAVE to double jump to get back on stage, if they AD & don't die you have PLENTY of time to go down there. There is a 50 / 50 involved if they're close enough to the stage to air dodge into it but that doesn't make edge guarding bad.
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Antwort an @VGBC_GimR @TSM_Leffen
what about after neutral airdodge? i also agree with leffen that ledge trapping is very dull also, to what extent have magnet hands been reduced?
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Antwort an @rishissb @TSM_Leffen
I don't know 100% but I looked at some footage and it looks like it's at least 25% smaller. It actually wasn't even that bad in S4 because of the 2 frame mechanic.
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2 frame mechanic is the worst part of it imo. literally just luck based edgeguarding as long as your opponent and you arent braindead
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