edgeguarding, proper kill options, less focused on 50/50 airdodge reads, proper whiff punishing, unique viable characters, theyve fixed some of my problems with smash 4 but the core gameplay is still largely the same, im hopeful it can keep changing though.https://twitter.com/zerowondering/status/1015626441260707841 …
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
1. with almost certain instant death if you air Dodge off stage (or you're required to recover OD low) how aren't there good edge guarding options? Although there are magnet hands it is much harder to get on the stage after grabbing the ledge compared to Melee.
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Antwort an @VGBC_GimR
most chars can recover from 1 airdodge easily with doublejump + up b, and since magnet hands makes it really stupid to edgeguard low recoveries some chars just dont get edgeguarded a lot. ledgetrapping is honestly incredibly dull and a bad replacement for good edgeguarding/oki
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
You can edge guard people who have to double jump up-B. Magnet hands won't save them in that situation.
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Antwort an @VGBC_GimR
doing that while also forcing them to airdodge is hard and unlikely, and trying to hit a rising up b with huge sweetspot with hitbox and no good spikes like melee/64 is extremely hard
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
When recovering you attack where they HAVE to double jump to get back on stage, if they AD & don't die you have PLENTY of time to go down there. There is a 50 / 50 involved if they're close enough to the stage to air dodge into it but that doesn't make edge guarding bad.
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Antwort an @VGBC_GimR @TSM_Leffen
Obviously this doesn't apply to characters with other recovery options but it doesn't make edge guarding bad. It's INCREDIBLY good in this game. In Smash 4 if you were getting fair stringed off stage you could literally air dodge and counter attack.
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you misinterpret what I mean by "good" edgeguarding - its obviously almost always worth going for, since recoveries are so good theres no risk to trying to hit your opponent and you MIGHT get lucky on a timing read on their up b and kill them. It's just not fun or interesting.
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