Even if you're inclined to believe Snowden had pure (or mixed) motives, his numerous lies are inescapable. http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fable-of-edward-snowden-1483143143 …
Snowden & apologists will brush this off w/ vague denials and counteraccusations. Burden's on them to square his representations w/ reality.
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so I go full apologist for you http://blog.erratasec.com/2016/12/your-absurd-story-doesnt-make-me.html …
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This is so weird. 1. My tweet was general reference that had nothing to do with you; I have no idea how you feel about Snowden.
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2. You post sets out and then refutes a list of strawman arguments, I have never made.
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3. I don't hate Snowden. My views are too complex for Twitter, but are probably best described as pity and frustration.
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he caught his own country breaking its own laws. He is a hero. Full stop.
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It is equally possible that that piece has some obvious problems and that Snowden's story has holes AND that so does NSA's.
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How much of that WSJ story you reckon is true? I'm tearing my hair out over liberal hypocrisy on re: the NSA. /1
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I might wait for the book and do a review then. But there are claims in there that have been debunked/conflict w/HPSCI.
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Which ones? Linked to debunking?
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Just as an example, the HPSCI report doesn't show he took 1.5M. It includes 2 claims, one from DIA, one IC.
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FOIAed docs make it clear DIA was deliberately written to be most damning.
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As much as Snowden may have impure intentions, this article makes absolutely no sense?
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Of course someone planning on fleeing the country will lie to their employer. Is this seriously being levied?
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"Hi, I'm leaving the country to leak documents, and I know Chelsea Manning was tortured, but can I go?"
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@munin I'm assuming it's unknowable at this point since I have no objective source to check statements against -
Which is usually a perfectly satisfactory outcome if you're attempting to discredit someone
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He may be lying, the government and its representatives have a habit of lying, what exactly am I meant to do here?
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No, actually, under US law it's "innocent until proven guilty" It's often impossible to prove what one didn't do. Burden of proof on accuser
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It's astounding that he thinks our privacy & rights in America are SO bad that he chose Russia as a place to hide.
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if you could point to an article like this in a non Murdoch rag I'll take it more seriously. I do want to hear more.
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