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    Steve Sailer‏ @Steve_Sailer 15 Dec 2017

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    "What reproductive isolation has occured between Europe and Asia that would produce distinct groups rather than clines?" The Great Eurasian Steppe between Europe and China couldn't support much population density, so most people are at one end (Europeans) or the other (Asians).https://twitter.com/TheDisproof/status/941631416810508288 …

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    If you pre determine the result it is called a self fulfilled prophecy fallacy. p.s. What reproductive isolation has occured between Europe and Asia that would produce distinct groups rather than clines?
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      2. Gregory Cochran‏ @gcochran99 15 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        The same ones that produced genetically distinct Neanderthals and Denisovans.

        1 reply 3 retweets 21 likes
      3. Nassim Nicholas Taleb‏Verified account @nntaleb 16 Dec 2017
        Replying to @gcochran99 @Steve_Sailer

        The Caucasus/Anatolia/Northern Levant were a refuge, hence protracted isolation.

        1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
      4. Nassim Nicholas Taleb‏Verified account @nntaleb 16 Dec 2017
        Replying to @nntaleb @gcochran99 @Steve_Sailer

        I am working with geneticist on the theory that once populations settle, genes don't change much. Only open spaces get occupied with new genes. Turkey has minimal Turkic genes, Lebanon has no Arab genes, France has no Roman genes outside of garrisons, etc.

        11 replies 7 retweets 34 likes
      5. Gregory Cochran‏ @gcochran99 16 Dec 2017
        Replying to @nntaleb @Steve_Sailer

        It's sometimes the case, sometimes not. Reasonably true for Turkey, not true for Mexico. Almost all of Europe was once occupied by EEF farmers: 6000 years ago the populations of Germany, Italy, south Sweden, Ireland all looked like Sardinians, genetically.

        2 replies 5 retweets 21 likes
      6. Gregory Cochran‏ @gcochran99 16 Dec 2017
        Replying to @gcochran99 @nntaleb @Steve_Sailer

        Definitely not the case any more in Northern Europe: those EEF farmers, originating in Anatolia and probably speaking Vasconic languages, were mostly replaced by Indo-Europeans from the steppe.

        3 replies 4 retweets 15 likes
      7. Philip Owen  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 @EFTA4UK‏ @PCOwen_a 16 Dec 2017
        Replying to @gcochran99 @nntaleb @Steve_Sailer

        It is also possible that Renfrew"s farmers spread PIE to the steppe as well as to the Balkans. The dates allow PIE1 from Anatolia, (sheep no horses) & PIE2 from Khavlinsk.

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      8. Gregory Cochran‏ @gcochran99 16 Dec 2017
        Replying to @PCOwen_a @nntaleb @Steve_Sailer

        First they had their Y-chromosomes surgically removed.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      9. Philip Owen  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 @EFTA4UK‏ @PCOwen_a 16 Dec 2017
        Replying to @gcochran99 @nntaleb @Steve_Sailer

        Start them in Armenia.

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      1. Gregory Cochran‏ @gcochran99 15 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        You need to consider what the landscape was like back in the last Ice Age: glaciers and glacial lakes were strong barriers for most of the period since the last major expansion out of Africa.

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      2. Larporello  🇳🇴‏ @heretic027 15 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        Also: sheer distance. You don't necessarily need massive topographical barriers to prevent meaningful gene transfers if ppl live thousands of miles away from each other (and don't have means of mass transportation).

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      4. Philip Owen  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 @EFTA4UK‏ @PCOwen_a 16 Dec 2017
        Replying to @ekkiebekkie @orc_brand and

        Also there is not much surface water on the steppe. So even pastoralists don't find it easy. They have to be nomads. Pre horse culture the steppe would be unliveable if not quite impassable.

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      6. Philip Owen  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 @EFTA4UK‏ @PCOwen_a 16 Dec 2017
        Replying to @ekkiebekkie @orc_brand and

        Not just Ukraine; the Lower Volga up to Samara. Still gallery forest. Today, mush of the surrounding territory is on the edge of desertification. Volgograd is very dry for example.

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      1. llllllllllllllllllll‏ @zwyrw 15 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        the population back then was a fraction of today and once populations split, they never met again, because each was surrounded by country sized empty space.

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      1. Lazy Glossophiliac‏ @Glossophiliac75 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        There is a cline in Central Asia and another one in Anatolia.

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      1. Johannes Brahms  🇩🇪 🇩🇪‏ @J_Brahms1833 15 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        Lets be honest. Japan, China, Korea, maybe a few other East Asian countries are the last genetic homogenous countries on the planet

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