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    Steve Sailer‏ @Steve_Sailer 19 Jul 2017

    Steve Sailer Retweeted Croesus of Lydia

    Hadrian's Wall or Great Wall of China could be climbed by barbarian infantry, but not by their cavalry, which was main barbarian threat.https://twitter.com/ByzantineFilth/status/887587036760350721 …

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    Croesus of Lydia @ByzantineFilth
    Replying to @ByzantineFilth @notwokieleaks
    So historians posit that it's purpose was more symbolic, and in a military sense, would only be a light barrier to slow them.
    12:54 PM - 19 Jul 2017
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      2. Jeff A. Taylor‏ @TheFree_Lance 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        It was the constant raids by horsemen which ate at imperial authority, respect, and income. Walls were a rational, effective response.

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      3. Croesus of Lydia‏ @ByzantineFilth 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @TheFree_Lance @Steve_Sailer

        Aye I agree, but Hadrian's is too small to be a "blocking" wall, more a disruption. Exact same thing in Belgae, Germania, Dacia, etc

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      2. JC Huff‏ @jchuff1861 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        @ByzantineFilth @notwokieleaks It was probably easier to pick them off as they scaled the wall. Just a guess

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      3. Croesus of Lydia‏ @ByzantineFilth 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @jchuff1861 @Steve_Sailer @notwokieleaks

        Aye, certainly could be the case, all of this is just opinion, we don't really know, all we know is it was a barrier in some way.

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      2. Croesus of Lydia‏ @ByzantineFilth 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @TimPCalle @Steve_Sailer

        Is this in reference to me? Walls are useful, they block an enemy, but Hadrian's wall was too small and so likely wasn't a physical barrier

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      4. Croesus of Lydia‏ @ByzantineFilth 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @TimPCalle @Steve_Sailer

        It varied, but in stone it was 3 metres wide and 6 metres tall, only east of the river Irthing and elsewhere it was 11 metres tall but made

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      5. Croesus of Lydia‏ @ByzantineFilth 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @ByzantineFilth @TimPCalle @Steve_Sailer

        of dirt, compare that to the 12 metre tall solid stone, multi layered Theodosian walls that could fit two chariots side by side

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      6. Croesus of Lydia‏ @ByzantineFilth 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @ByzantineFilth @TimPCalle @Steve_Sailer

        And Hadrian's wall was littered with gates, while it was a physical barrier, it likely served the same function the wooden walls in Germania

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      7. Croesus of Lydia‏ @ByzantineFilth 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @ByzantineFilth @TimPCalle @Steve_Sailer

        Did, namely to disrupt the speed of enemy armies, to deter raiders, and simply as a way to control the border for immigration, trade, etc

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      8. Croesus of Lydia‏ @ByzantineFilth 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @ByzantineFilth @TimPCalle @Steve_Sailer

        Thus, as a wall, it wouldn't stop a determined enemy, it would slow them, unlike the Theodosian walls for example, so it probably took on

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      2. Croesus of Lydia‏ @ByzantineFilth 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        I was speaking solely in reference to Hadrian's Wall, which likely was erected for the same reasons as the German walls, to deter 1/2

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      3. Croesus of Lydia‏ @ByzantineFilth 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @ByzantineFilth @Steve_Sailer

        Raiding, and to slow down any hostile force until a garrison could be sent to deal with the threat, not as a Theodosian Walls like 2/3

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      4. Croesus of Lydia‏ @ByzantineFilth 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @ByzantineFilth @Steve_Sailer

        Structure to physically block the enemy, so it was more symbolic. sorry if I didn't explain what I was saying too well.

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      1. Deputy Van Halen‏ @Serenitynow418 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        Not sure about ancient China, but I believe infantry reigned supreme when Hadrian's Wall built, barbarian cavalry dominant ~200 yrs later

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