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    Steve Sailer‏ @Steve_Sailer Sep 15

    Puerto Rico has amazingly bad public schools. On a special Spanish-language version of the federal NAEP test, 91% of PR 8th grade public school students score Below Basic in math and 0% score Proficient, much less Advanced. http://www.unz.com/isteve/puerto-ricos-public-schools-are-amazingly-bad/ …pic.twitter.com/Fg54F3rcfb

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      2. SC Farrell‏ @slk2286 Sep 15
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        What are those 2 # signs about

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      3. Steve Sailer‏ @Steve_Sailer Sep 16
        Replying to @slk2286

        The Puerto Rican NAEP scores in 8th grade math are 91% Below Basic 9% Basic 0% (rounds to zero) Proficient 0% Advanced

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      2. Daan Janssen‏ @JanssenBro Sep 15
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        What makes you think this has something to do with schools? Might just be less capable population

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      3. Steve Sailer‏ @Steve_Sailer Sep 15
        Replying to @JanssenBro

        Students in PR (only 9% reach Basic) do much worse than Hispanic students in 50 states (57% at Basic or higher) on NAEP test.

        2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      4. Anonymousie451‏ @anonymousie451 Sep 16
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer @JanssenBro

        Maybe PR Hispanics are less intelligent than other Hispanic ethnicities? There's a lot if variation between the white ethnic groups; why not with other races.

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      5. (((Deplorable)))‏ @UDeplorableIV Sep 16
        Replying to @anonymousie451 @Steve_Sailer @JanssenBro

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        I looked up the numbers — no, they’re basically the same on average. https://twitter.com/udeplorableiv/status/1041293537856376832?s=21 …

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      6. universalworldbaby‏ @universalworld0 Sep 16
        Replying to @UDeplorableIV @anonymousie451 and

        There is a peer effect. Presence of higher scoring peers may be boosting the performance of inland Hispanics?

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      7. (((Deplorable)))‏ @UDeplorableIV Sep 16
        Replying to @universalworld0 @anonymousie451 and

        Whatever is causing the total breakdown of standards, discipline, bureaucratic efficiency, etc. I would not say that it’s reducible to peer effects.

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      8. (((Deplorable)))‏ @UDeplorableIV Sep 16
        Replying to @UDeplorableIV @anonymousie451 and

        It’s also affecting whoever’s responsible for keeping the lights on, afterall.

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      9. Midwest Poverty Law Center‏ @MichiganWave Sep 16
        Replying to @UDeplorableIV @universalworld5 and

        Mainland: -Mediocre teachers & bad students On PR: -Bad teachers, bad students,& prob higher absenteeism Also, more motivated & ambitious fraction of PR folk leave the island. Docile cohort stay behind

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      2. Spooky Chaos‏ @AmericanBiz42 Sep 15
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        You know as well as anyone that it's the schools that are bad. It's the students

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      3. Steve Sailer‏ @Steve_Sailer Sep 16
        Replying to @AmericanBiz42

        57% of Hispanics in US 8th grade math NAEP test score Basic or above vs only 9% in Puerto Rico. Puerto Ricans in US are probably below US Hispanic average, but still ... schools have to be awful to get scores that low. PR spends more per student than Utah and Idaho.

        3 replies 19 retweets 40 likes
      4. Anonymousie451‏ @anonymousie451 Sep 16
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer @AmericanBiz42

        But who's running said schools? Now, there's no sin in not being a genius, and there might be room for improvement, but the available evidence suggests the brain drain is such that PR who stay in the island need a lot of assistance. How do mainland PRs do?

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      5. (((Deplorable)))‏ @UDeplorableIV Sep 16
        Replying to @anonymousie451 @Steve_Sailer @AmericanBiz42

        Puerto Ricans in Puerto Rico have IQs between 84 and 89 depending upon the study. They’ve gotten better scores since the 70’s as conditions improved and Spanish language IQ tests got better. SD size was also a lot larger in older studies (SD of 22) — so higher scores prob right.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      6. (((Deplorable)))‏ @UDeplorableIV Sep 16
        Replying to @UDeplorableIV @anonymousie451 and

        Recent larger-scale studies seem to show ~87-89 with a more normal SD ~15. In that light it’s probably right to say that Puerto Ricans clock in at around 87-89IQ. Normal US Hispanic scores.

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      7. (((Deplorable)))‏ @UDeplorableIV Sep 16
        Replying to @UDeplorableIV @anonymousie451 and

        Average IQs for US blacks are two or three points lower than the average IQs for Puerto Ricans. You’d expect that the Puerto Ricans would have around a ~.2SD+ edge in the academic tests as a result of their slightly higher IQ — but this does not seem to be the case.

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      8. (((Deplorable)))‏ @UDeplorableIV Sep 16
        Replying to @UDeplorableIV @anonymousie451 and

        My guess is that there’s probably less work getting done in the PR schools than the average school attended by a US black. Or that US blacks are taking their tests more seriously. Or the worst US blacks are leaving the testing pool at higher rates... Probably all of the above.

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      9. (((Deplorable)))‏ @UDeplorableIV Sep 16
        Replying to @UDeplorableIV @anonymousie451 and

        My guess is that just like Puerto Ricans have had worse access to electricity (even during 2016) than US blacks they also have worse access to suitable educational environments (and the institutions which remove the worst students from the classroom/testing pools).

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      1. Midwest Poverty Law Center‏ @MichiganWave Sep 16
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        One wonders if what little accountability exists on mainland is totally absent on PR. Maybe its near total chaos w/ core material not taught, & zero accountability

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      1. Hernan Cortes‏ @ModernCortes Sep 16
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        @Enopoletus even worse than the extremely low scores in Mexican schools. The education system works as well as the utilities.

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