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    1. Ben Southwood‏Verified account @bswud Sep 10

      The Clean Water Act, on which the USA has spent ~$1 trillion, would probably not pass a cost benefit analysis (unlike the Clean Air Act, which has a benefit:cost ratio of about 42) https://academic.oup.com/qje/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1093/qje/qjy019/5092609?redirectedFrom=fulltext …pic.twitter.com/y1Vx7ni76X

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      Steve Sailer‏ @Steve_Sailer Sep 10
      Replying to @bswud

      How much did cleaning up Los Angeles's smog by imposing California clean air regulations nationally cost? In 1979, EPA gas mileage sticker showed California cars got about 10% worse gas mileage to fight smog. Then regs imposed nationally. What's an extra 10% of gas expense?

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        2. Ben Southwood‏Verified account @bswud Sep 10
          Replying to @Steve_Sailer

          That's exactly the sort of calculation they use in their analysis, I'll grab the paper. The reason why intuitively Clean Air is likely to be more effective than Clean Water is that most of the costs of bad air are widespread, whereas dirty rivers mostly only affect people nearby

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        3. Ben Southwood‏Verified account @bswud Sep 10
          Replying to @bswud @Steve_Sailer

          So air costs will be less capitalised into land and housing prices

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        4. Ben Southwood‏Verified account @bswud Sep 10
          Replying to @bswud @Steve_Sailer

          see section ES-1 here for the EPA estimates of the costs of compliant cars https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2015-06/documents/contsetc.pdf …

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        5. Steve Sailer‏ @Steve_Sailer Sep 10
          Replying to @bswud

          Feds report Clean Air Act cost $523 billion from 1970-1990 in 1990 dollars, or, say, a trillion in today's dollars. But not sure if that includes big costs of putting all cars on California's standards, which happened fairly late.

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        6. Ben Southwood‏Verified account @bswud Sep 10
          Replying to @Steve_Sailer

          I strongly doubt they failed to include that, it seems like one of the central elements of their analysis, but I'm unqualified to say for sure without properly digging into it

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        7. Steve Sailer‏ @Steve_Sailer Sep 10
          Replying to @bswud

          This is all forgotten, but California complained that its higher standards on car emissions, which worsened gas mileage about 10%, were being undermined by Californians buying cars in other states. After many years, perhaps post 1990, feds imposed Cal standards on USA.

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        8. Ben Southwood‏Verified account @bswud Sep 10
          Replying to @Steve_Sailer

          Is that CAA related? Sounds like a separate regulation

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        9. Steve Sailer‏ @Steve_Sailer Sep 10
          Replying to @bswud

          Change could well be post-1990. I recall that the subcompact I bought in 1979 in L.A. had an EPA sticker saying it got 28 miles per gallon, but only 25 MPG in California due to stricter emissions controls on engine. So I used about 10% more gas to fight smog. 10% more gas adds up

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        1. Agnieszka Pilchowa‏ @APilchowa Sep 10
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          Having fled LA smog immediately after college I’m always amazed to find air pretty breathable down there now. No play days/no go outdoor days, etc frequent when growing up. & of course both parents smoked like chimneys.

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