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    1. Audacious Epigone‏ @AudaciousEpigon Sep 7

      "I'm amused at the suggestion that democracy is going to save us from democracy. At this point the only viable outcomes are a military coup, a somewhat-peaceful secession, or a bloody civil war." I'm inclined to agree--and to prefer the second option

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    2. Sherman McCoy‏ @Waspergers Sep 7
      Replying to @AudaciousEpigon

      Hard no on secession unless we’re talking about lopping off parts of California... any country created through secession would likely be from landlocked states like Montana or Ohio. Landlocked countries are shit-tier.

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    3. David Pinsen‏ @dpinsen Sep 7
      Replying to @Waspergers @AudaciousEpigon

      Logically, you’d lop off a slice of California around San Diego, and give the Central Valley the choice of eschewing stoop labor and joining the red US, or keeping stoop labor and facing eventual “land reform” in the blue US. You’d also maybe take a slice near Bellingham.

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    4. Audacious Epigone‏ @AudaciousEpigon Sep 7
      Replying to @dpinsen @Waspergers

      If it's just sea access you're after--which sounds quaintly 20th century to me--it can run through the state/entity of Jefferson (formerly part of northern California)

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      Steve Sailer‏ @Steve_Sailer Sep 7
      Replying to @AudaciousEpigon @dpinsen @Waspergers

      It would have to be San Diego.

      7:59 PM - 7 Sep 2018
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        1. Audacious Epigone‏ @AudaciousEpigon Sep 7
          Replying to @Steve_Sailer @dpinsen @Waspergers

          Coastline/sea too rough that far north? Maybe it'd be possible to build a port in less than a generation without California's current onerous development laws!

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        2. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux Sep 7
          Replying to @Steve_Sailer @AudaciousEpigon and

          Alaska isn’t connected to the lower 48, no reason Seattle needs to be connected to Cali-leftopia. Ask Seattleites, they’d probably even prefer to remain separate from their Californian Comrades. Bellingham’s crunchies also have a very low aptitude to qualify as deplorables.pic.twitter.com/pu8THee9fA

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        3. David Pinsen‏ @dpinsen Sep 7
          Replying to @euneaux @Steve_Sailer and

          Non-contiguity is a good point. An alternate way to think about this is what’s the minimum of blue you’d need to lop off to get a reasonably harmonious country. Miami and NYC could become city-states, maybe a coastal strip from Los Angeles to SF gets lopped off...

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        4. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux Sep 7
          Replying to @dpinsen @Steve_Sailer and

          Instead of spatial separation, what about possibility of virtual polities? Instead of cleansing and purifying territories, individuals could subject themselves to separate moral, legal, tax & civic authorities within the same space?

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        5. Audacious Epigone‏ @AudaciousEpigon Sep 7
          Replying to @euneaux @dpinsen and

          Speculations are interesting but insinuate significant change in daily existence that need not occur Minimally, political dissolution is everything like it before except 1) no more federal taxes withheld, 2) no more benefits from said taxes being withheld (whatever those are)

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        6. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux Sep 7
          Replying to @AudaciousEpigon @dpinsen and

          Sounds beautiful.😍 Medicare & Social Security devolve to the states. Finally a whole lot less ability and appetite for foreign “Invade-the-World” adventures. But interstate commerce threatens to grind to a halt as it becomes international commerce as in the Holy Roman Empire.

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        7. David Pinsen‏ @dpinsen Sep 7
          Replying to @euneaux @AudaciousEpigon and

          Why not have free movement of people within the states? You wouldn't have to worry about attracting a criminal underclass if you control your own welfare spending: you simply don't subsidize it, and you use broken windows policing as further discouragement.

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        8. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux Sep 7
          Replying to @dpinsen @AudaciousEpigon and

          I can’t imagine any acute unintended consequences of free mobility & settlement... even into the Nth iteration... especially if deportation / exclusion remains as a possible sanction for such “broken window policing.”

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        9. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux Sep 7
          Replying to @euneaux @dpinsen and

          Perhaps the worst that would happen would be exactly what places like AZ NV TX CO ID complain about, THAT all the Californian newcomers show up and vote progressive values that bring exactly the kind of problems they fled.

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        1. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux Sep 7
          Replying to @Steve_Sailer @AudaciousEpigon and

          Can’t imagine Leftopians would be very interested in holding on to the Kitsap nuclear sub base in Bremerton & Bangor just across the Sound from Seattle.

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