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    Steve Sailer‏ @Steve_Sailer Jul 15

    Steve Sailer Retweeted SamsonHyde

    Under "Nation of Immigrants" ideology, immigrants are _the_ True-Born Americans. Sadly, nobody admits this was just some BS made up as revenge for blackballing great-grandpa at LACC, forcing him to cofound Hillcrest CC. But now people take it seriously, making policy dumber.https://twitter.com/ShekelnHyde/status/1018512986108059649 …

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    SamsonHyde @ShekelnHyde
    Replying to @TheAmericanLib2 @Steve_Sailer
    Latin root of nation is "nasci," to be born. Nation is people who share circumstances of birth, among other things. Nation of immigrants is self-contradicting, and it makes no sense to people. If everyone is American, then Americanness defines no actual heritage or history.
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      2. Count Waiblingen‏ @CountWaiblingen Jul 15
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        Have you ever noticed that when liberals point to America's sins, like slavery or our treatment of the natives, no one says "Immigrants stole land from the Indians," or "Immigrants enslaved blacks." It always "Whites did..."

        1 reply 36 retweets 111 likes
      3. Eoin Chadwick‏ @EoinChadwick Jul 15
        Replying to @CountWaiblingen @Steve_Sailer

        That's a very clever linguistic judo, pull them into the shit they are perpetually throwing at us. Going to have to experiment with that.

        1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
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      2. Esoteric Bullshit‏ @MindDrippings Jul 15
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        People's ancestors did typically immigrate to the US at some point, even if it was back in the 1700's-1800's or whatever. The BS part of the Nation of Immigrants ideology is the idea that people immigrating shouldn't feel they need to integrate.

        3 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
      3. Pozzidonius‏ @Pozzidonius Jul 15
        Replying to @MindDrippings @Steve_Sailer

        settlers =/= immigrants

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      4. Esoteric Bullshit‏ @MindDrippings Jul 15
        Replying to @Pozzidonius @Steve_Sailer

        Doubt the settlers materialized out of thin air. Playing semantics about this serves no purpose other than to avoid arguing with people why people coming to NA could be beneficial in the past yet detrimental now.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Pozzidonius‏ @Pozzidonius Jul 15
        Replying to @MindDrippings @Steve_Sailer

        It's not really semantics though: settlers founded the cultural and legal framework for "America"; immigrant groups have traditionally been assimilated into this framework. Read DH Fischer's "Albion's Seed"...main settler geopolitical blocs still intact even after non-Brit immig

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      6. Esoteric Bullshit‏ @MindDrippings Jul 15
        Replying to @Pozzidonius @Steve_Sailer

        So what? If you call some settlers and others immigrants does that convince those that are pro immigration to turn against it or those anti-immigration to turn in favor? It’s a silly point to try and make whether you’re pro immigration or not.

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      7. Pozzidonius‏ @Pozzidonius Jul 15
        Replying to @MindDrippings @Steve_Sailer

        Allowing the enemy to define the historical narrative is a mistake. Liberalism triumphed not only by redefining the terms of engagement but forcing its opponents into borrowing those terms.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Esoteric Bullshit‏ @MindDrippings Jul 15
        Replying to @Pozzidonius @Steve_Sailer

        Seems like a non-answer to avoid the core argument. Much like how focusing on word games usually seems to be about.

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      1. David Simon‏ @DavidSimonSPG Jul 15
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer

        The American Party died off a little while before anybody's great-grandpa was born. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing … How could that have happened if the 'nation of immigrants' thing was just recent BS?

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