Stefan MolyneuxVerified account

You think the people in Venezuela directly own and control the oil? The country has a ruling elite in control. Ruling class = not socialism.

Attempts toward socialism as you define it have resulted in the most oppressive ruling classes in history.

How could that be?? Karl Marx admitted that true socialism requires a "dictatorship of the proletariat" https://fee.org/articles/socialism-requires-a-dictator/ …

Socialism is a self-defeating, oxymoronic ideology that has destroyed the lives of millions and impoverished entire swaths of civilization.

They thought it was Socialism until the results came in.

Check out your native North-American indian economic systems; many were socialist-like communities, without private property.

That is why they stole horses and attacked other tribes for hunting territory

Also, east/west coast cultures (inlc. Canadian) didn't need horses. War parties were small scale, focused on status, not acquiring property.

Territory was property and it was defended. I will concede that within the individual tribes food was shared freely. It is naiive to think

Most North American tribes used. That is also property

It doesn't negate the fact that, within their communities, they shared and shared alike. That's the American heritage.

Socialist societies have a wealthy upper class,beleagured to non existent middle class and an abundance of dependant poor