Stefan MolyneuxVerified account

The fact that under socialism the gov't has all the rights, that indicates what the government considers people to be....property.

But, but, but Stefan.. those who crave socialism don’t want to grind and put the hard work in to own property and instead simply want other people’s stuff to compensate for their own incompetence

We need to force the Kings to sign on to Magna Carta again.

Communist/Socialism doesn't mean that the property belongs to all people as they called. In fact, the property belongs to the man who has the power. So, Communist/Socialism is cheating. the power man uses the property to hiring the PLA army who killed Chinese people indeed.

No they don’t; all human rigjts come from the fact that I am alive; &my survival is not given.I have therefore no right 2demand another live his or her life in support of mine,& vice versa.From that pronciple comes the right2self-defense, right2private property, free speech, etc

Exactly! No property, no progress!

I agree with that...I thought that way after I read John Locke's "Second Treatise of Civil Government"

I think we americans have less property rights than we think we do,just paid our property taxes on 2 houses that are paid off and rightfully ours,but if we dont pay the tax,the government can take the houses from us,which are worth infinitly more than the tax

Agreed. In the US I would argue that as long as property can be taxed we don’t have property rights. If you don’t pay your property taxes the state can take it away.