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Anti-authoritarian, bleeding-heart Stirnerite, ☯️. Banned in Sweden. SubGenius, Zhuangist, white-hat troll. Defrocked mathematician. Brain problems.

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    1. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 21 Apr 2017
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      Without the government, there would never have been an Internet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FidoNet 

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    2. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 21 Apr 2017
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      To anticipate the obvious criticism: No, FidoNet wasn't ever going to replace the pre-Web Internet. ARPAnet had first-mover advantage & $$$.

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      St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 21 Apr 2017
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      What FidoNet shows is large-scale networking wasn't a mysterious discovery that needed a Manhattan project. Hobbyists could half-ass it.

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        2. Matthew Skala‏ @mattskala 21 Apr 2017
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          I'm not sure how really comparable those two things are. uucp was a lot closer in function to FidoNet.

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        3. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 22 Apr 2017
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          UUCP was thoroughly entangled with the early Internet, though. Ran on a lot of the same machines and pipelines. FidoNet was early PCs.

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        4. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 22 Apr 2017
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          I'm countering the popular idea that FedGov was necessary to have modern networks.

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        5. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 22 Apr 2017
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          Because here's a bunch of hobbyists creating a whole parallel infrastructure out of bandaids and foil.

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        2. Amara's Law‏ @analyticascent 23 Apr 2017
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          Not only that, but suppose the creation of ArpaNet itself depended on a *non-government protocol* that used patterns of sounds and symbols 🤔

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        3. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 23 Apr 2017
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          Replying to @analyticascent @joelgrus

          Apparently the rule is that once the government affects any project in anyway, all credit belongs to the state forever.

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        2. Rob Szarka is a wartime consiglieri‏ @szarka 21 Apr 2017
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          Yup. And the ecosystem of FTN-based networks included some wonderfully diverse approaches to governance.

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        3. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 21 Apr 2017
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          Replying to @szarka

          ARPANET is the "muh roads" argument for teh cybers

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        4. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk 21 Apr 2017
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          There was a good paper on that about 10 years ago. Cato perhaps?

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        2. We're A Culture Ship Not A Costume‏ @TristanSevers 21 Apr 2017
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          If we'd gotten hobbyist-led internet everything would still run on a shortwave radio backbone though.

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        3. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 21 Apr 2017
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          For the same reason we're still using UUCP bang path email addresses today?

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        2. PoliTex‏ @PoliPat1 21 Apr 2017
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          Competitors run into the issue: I can't fight someone who has all the money and inability to fail. ... http://tmi.me/1fipLt 

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        3. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 21 Apr 2017
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          Replying to @PoliPat1

          yep.

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        1. PoliTex‏ @PoliPat1 21 Apr 2017
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          You know.. like those mysterious radio station thingies and phone lines thingies the government invented

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        1. PoliTex‏ @PoliPat1 21 Apr 2017
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          The other thing, is when the government moves in.. when they don't outlaw even the most innocuous things (see hushaphone) or

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