I'm talking to some socialist and they're like "GBI" and I'm like "me too, GBI" and they're "$2000/month" and I'm "the hell you say"
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@lulach_cuardach@simplic10@ArthurFrDent Then about incentive structures and welfare traps (poor are not magically immune to incentives). -
@lulach_cuardach@simplic10@ArthurFrDent nb. revenue neutral GBI would be about $400/mo under current budget conditions. -
@lulach_cuardach@simplic10@ArthurFrDent Poor on welfare don't work because they are aggressively penalized--eff. marginal tax rate ~90%+ -
@lulach_cuardach@simplic10@ArthurFrDent "enough to live on" means a) don't have to eat out of dumpsters b) don't sleep in woods. -
@lulach_cuardach@simplic10@ArthurFrDent nb: the current system fails miserably at achieving that level of support, because -
@lulach_cuardach@simplic10@ArthurFrDent means-testing excludes the actual worst off--severely mentally ill, intellectually disabled etc. -
@lulach_cuardach@simplic10@ArthurFrDent because they can't navigate the system/please the gatekeepers.
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