@St_Rev easy to tell when plants are flourishing, you just have to realize that people are glorified plants
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@St_Rev (a) no (b) not being in a positive mental state is a concrete harm (I'd say flourishing is 100% fixing mental states in other words) -
@sarahdoingthing "The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven..."
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@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing leaving aside essence: creativity & enjoyment, which do not seem to be “absence of harm”? -
@Meaningness@sarahdoingthing Hm. Good point, I concede the argument. -
@St_Rev@Meaningness oh come on, what value has creativity except by improving mental states of the creative & maybe others? ;) -
@St_Rev@Meaningness key problem: part of flourishing *itself* is believing in the importance of something other than mental states :( -
@St_Rev@Meaningness i.e. believing nothing matters but mental states is probably bad for mental states -
@sarahdoingthing@Meaningness Say what you like, but at least John Belushi died doing what he loved
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