When is trolling consistent with treating people as ends in themselves, asking for a friend
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@St_Rev I share this intuition - yet I also kinda want people to troll me? sorry is that dirty :| -
@St_Rev I want there to be interesting puzzles in the world maybe -
@sarahdoingthing@St_Rev interesting to the high verbal/social iq crowd. There's obviously plenty of interesting mathematical puzzles -
@drethelin@St_Rev important that trolling is social - doing puzzles alone is not. trolling is like a puzzle for a community? -
@sarahdoingthing@drethelin Puzzles are punching bags, trolling is live sparring. -
@St_Rev@drethelin and a victory condition for one side is realizing you're playing the game
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@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing I like to gloss trolling as anti-insincerity technique; but this makes troll tend toward armchair telepathy -
@simplic10@sarahdoingthing I have no idea what you just said -
@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing eh yeah, not my best ellipsis. Nm, not super important. -
@simplic10@St_Rev noooo please explain -
@sarahdoingthing@St_Rev Just: natural prey of the troll is the hypocrite. But only a mind reader can know smb is a hypocrite. Presumptuous. -
@simplic10@sarahdoingthing I don't think that's the natural prey of the troll. I think you're confusing is and ought.
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@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing oddly enough what comes to mind here is what's the right way to approach making & presenting difficult artworks -
@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing (music in particular bc that's one I've got some first-hand understanding of) -
@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing making it from the pov of looking down on the part of the audience that isn't ready for it corrupts the work, imo -
@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing half an audience can walk out 10m in & there's nothing wrong with either the act or the ones it wasn't working for -
@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing artists who automatically assume anyone put off by their stuff is just too stupid to get it are generally shit
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. Banned in Sweden. SubGenius, Zhuangist, white-hat troll. Defrocked mathematician. Brain problems.