@schakalsynthetc My frame is: people are limited, slow and buggy. This is kind of vaguely related to the idea of sin but not really.
@schakalsynthetc The direction is concretely real, but there's no end state of moral perfection from which to issue judgement.
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@St_Rev judgement has to be issued from the concrete situation one is actually in, otherwise it's fraudulent, I think -
@St_Rev sub specie aeternatis is not ours -
@St_Rev the subtlety is, in order to progress you have to have some capacity to say no to what is, even if there's nothing yet beyond "no" -
@St_Rev ideas like "the revolution" or "the singularity" can serve this precisely because at bottom they're purely negative, unrepresentable
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