@St_Rev otoh saying "deterrence isn't a valid goal" is a principled answer to that
@schakalsynthetc "acts in ways that unconsciously reinforce" = sin = mysterious evil gas that permeates and defines all activity.
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@St_Rev sure, but I'm already explicitly okay with the concept of original sin, so... :) -
@schakalsynthetc Well, now that we've explicitly disambiguated that idea, we can reasonably differ on it. -
@St_Rev I'm not sure we differ that much, tho. (might, but idk yet.) I was about to add that my endorsement comes w/ heavy qualifications -
@St_Rev thing about sth like "original sin" is that the very ubiquity of it in itself implies it's not a proper subject of value jugement -
@St_Rev at least not the kind of value judgement we can make on particular acts or states of affairs -
@St_Rev demanding that existence justify itself is a category error
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