@Meaningness One thing we want from meaning is that it justify the suffering of life (not just our own, but that of others and even animals)
@Meaningness @sarahdoingthing Invert the frame: pointing toward the infinite terminal object is distraction, *right here* is justification.
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@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing I’m not good at this either—but it seems to work when I do it. -
@Meaningness@sarahdoingthing Doesn't verbalize well, does it? Doesn't magically fix everything, either, but it helps a bit. -
@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing (if we’re talking about the same “it,” which quite likely we aren’t…) -
@Meaningness@sarahdoingthing Somewhat similar "its", I think. The focus on immanence in Zen is the Daoist part of it. -
@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing Yah. So, the Buddhist expression here is that suffering arises from comparison of reality with counterfactuals. -
@Meaningness@sarahdoingthing The Daoist mode is imperative present tense: "look at this! Isn't that interesting! Wait, look at this now!" -
@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing Yeah, also Buddhist tantra (and Zen to some extent, probably borrowing from both Daoism and tantra). -
@Meaningness@St_Rev so running by a dead cat I say to myself "I am also of this nature, subject to aging, death, and decay" but...poor cat - 1 more reply
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