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@St_Rev@drethelin @TheViewFromHell The fact that animals suffer immeasurably in a state of nature is extra-moral. -
@NineBandedBooks@drethelin @TheViewFromHell I mean that if replacing the state of nature with a meat farm has moral value, it's positive. -
@St_Rev@drethelin @TheViewFromHell If it's free-roam, sure. The calculus wrt industrialized farming - esp. of hogs - remains questionable. -
@NineBandedBooks@drethelin @TheViewFromHell Don't know much about hog farming. I mentioned chicken farming as iffy.
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@St_Rev I guess I have no idea how happy pigs are to forage and whatnot -
@drethelin Did you read @TheViewFromHell's essay that I linked? Do it.
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@St_Rev@drethelin I agree with this, but contend it is irrelevant for question of whether to eat ethically raised meat. -
@simplic10@drethelin My ethical concerns scale as "people nearby" > "people distant" >> "living non-people". ('People' includes cats.)
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@St_Rev@drethelin Expected value of 1 pig's worth of meat not eaten = 1 less pig raised = 1 less pig-lifetime of suffering. -
@simplic10@drethelin I'm not an antinatalist or negative utilitarian. -
@St_Rev@drethelin I'm an anti-marginal-pig-natalist. -
@simplic10@St_Rev@drethelin I've convinced myself that I have an ethical obligation to hunt and eat feral pigs. So far am failing to do so
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@St_Rev@drethelin For same reason that the various genocides of history do not imply it's no big deal to murder 1 person.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@St_Rev@drethelin This would only be good objection if we were harvesting animals from wild in large #'s (& I do eat fish for that reason).Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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