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Anti-authoritarian, bleeding-heart Stirnerite, ☯️. Banned in Sweden. SubGenius, Zhuangist, white-hat troll. Defrocked mathematician. Brain problems.

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    1. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage Aug 28
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      Get a little tougher on different versions of inference, with more of a heavy mathematical focus, in the second semester. Require students to do a survey *and* and an experiment themselves integrates what has been learned.

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    2. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage Aug 28
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      Kosuke Imai’s QUANTITATIVE SOCIAL SCIENCE more or less takes this approach. A high school version that explains the R better could maybe be developed.

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    3. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage Aug 28
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      But here is the important thing: it cannot end in 9th grade. Once basic stats skills are learned these should be integrated into every single science class—and really half of the social studies classes—out there. Starting with 9th grade biology.

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    4. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage Aug 28
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      Biology, chemistry, environmental science, psychology, and government classes should all require students to do stats. Just like the study of those things in the real world does. Nothing super fancy or advanced—but enough for em to see in person how it is integrated into various

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    5. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage Aug 28
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      Real world topics. If you only use something in 9th grade you will forget it. The idea of replacing some required subject with stats is fine, but if you do not continue to use it every year afterword you will forget.

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    6. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage Aug 28
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      The problem is that most high school teachers in other subjects are not equipped to include stats or coding into their courses, even if it dominated the academic and private versions of those subjects

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    7. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage Aug 28
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      (think the ubiquity of election polling vs average social studies teachers’ ability to explain it)

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    8. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage Aug 28
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      Maybe try this model out at a charter school? A charter school where stats was the bed rock of social science and poetry the bed rock of English would be the place I’d send my kids to in a heart beat....

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    9. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Aug 28
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      Sounds virtually impossible to grade consistently, particularly with the actually existing teaching labor force. 'Data science' is already starved for qualified practitioners. Also possibly beyond the grasp of most students.

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    10. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage Aug 28
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      No it isn’t. Stats is easier than trig, algebra II, calc. Teachers already teach coding and already teach stats, so there is no hurdle with grading. Hardest part is finding actual teachers to do it em masse.

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      St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Aug 28
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      Fifteen years of teaching math says otherwise, but I'd love to be wrong.

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        2. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage Aug 28
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          You find it easier to teach calculus than stats?

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        3. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Aug 28
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          Not what I said, although I think they're both nearly impossible to teach usefully to a median student. But what I meant was: a) Surveys/projects with a mathematical basis are labor-intensive to grade. Teaching practices are strongly selected for easy/unambiguous grading.

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        4. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage Aug 28
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          Oh I get it. Yeah one way to make it easier is to make it group projects. Of course you could just sponk it and have them use data sets you give them instead of having them do their own data collection

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