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Anti-authoritarian, bleeding-heart Stirnerite, ☯️. Banned in Sweden. SubGenius, Zhuangist, white-hat troll. Defrocked mathematician. Brain problems.

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    St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 19 Oct 2018
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    Egregores are composed of, *run on*, multiple human brains, potentially millions of them, but they are (usually) far less complex, *lower-dimensional*, than humans. It's a bandwidth issue: an egregore doesn't only rely on language for transmission, but for all of its cognition.

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      2. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 19 Oct 2018
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        Written language allowed egregores to advance in complexity by using text as long-term storage -- holy writ, contracts, regulations etc. This allows an advanced egregore a degree of independence from individual minds. But most egregores are much smaller and more primitive.

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      3. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 19 Oct 2018
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        This is why a fully owned human sounds eerily like a simple computer program when carrying out the egregore's will: the egregore is much simpler than the mind hosting it.

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      4. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 19 Oct 2018
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        As a footnote, this suggests a strategy for resisting egregore infection: When you notice everyone agreeing on some subject, train yourself to avoid that subject and reserve judgment. Kneejerk contrarianism isn't enough, not "you're wrong!" but "I dunno about that."

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      5. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 19 Oct 2018
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        To clarify: Train yourself to avoid _discussing_ that subject, or repeating what you hear. If you choose to _investigate_ the subject, that's great, but it isn't always practical. Remaining ignorant of the media explosion du jour is always a wise choice.

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      2. Symora Viviris ꙮ‏ @GlitchesBrew 19 Oct 2018
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        Would group ceremony/ritual, sex magick, designated places of worship, and other means of tying more senses and emotional communication into a belief have the effect of increasing the egregore's complexity beyond language alone? Or does that give mass-intuition too much credit

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      3. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 19 Oct 2018
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        Probably, religions are egregores and they love that crap. One of the first things an egregore has to do is recognize what hosts it owns. Having a gathering place and a symbolic vocabulary saves making its hosts chant #resist #resist #resist #MAGA #MAGA #MAGA.

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      4. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 19 Oct 2018
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        This is all using 'egregore' in my idiosyncratic postrat sense. Classical egregores are a lot more ritual-based but that kind overlaps more with the Holy Guardian Angel, and with what the kids these days call tulpas.

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      5. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 19 Oct 2018
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        I've contacted my Holy Guardian Angel but it was kind of accidental and I couldn't teach anyone else to do it.

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        Fascinating. What were the circumstances, if you don't mind my asking?

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        No comment!

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      2. Gordon Mohr ꧁ 👁 👁꧂‏ @gojomo 19 Oct 2018
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        don't quite agree; all that complexity inside individual humans was also seeded by "low bandwidth" language/sense/sensemaking. egregores can similarly have emergent complexity from composition over time across many differentiated parts.…

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      3. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 19 Oct 2018
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        An egregore can make use of complex machinery in its host, like a virus uses cellular machinery. But if it draws on that capacity too deeply -- if it uses it in unpredictable ways -- it loses coherence as an entity. IOW, too much thinking makes heretics.

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      4. Gordon Mohr ꧁ 👁 👁꧂‏ @gojomo 19 Oct 2018
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        hmm, I think an egregore can be heretical, too, so will have to ponder. (tangentially related: I highly recommend @gregeganSF's short story 'Unstable Orbits in the Space of Lies')

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