But I'd like to point out an angle that's occurred to me, but I haven't seen clearly framed before: Does the right to free speech not imply a right to *listen*? Not a right *to* an audience, but a right to *be* an audience? 2/
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If so -- and I haven't seen any arguments against it -- then the heckler's veto is obviously illegitimate. Party A wants to speak, party B wants to listen, party C wants to interfere with that transaction. But B has not consented to listen to C. C has no right to an audience! 3/
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Cartoon with A, B, and Stalin. "I consent to be heard!" "I consent to listen!" "Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?" 4/ https://twitter.com/ortoiseortoise/status/1015047074331742208 …
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I think the right to listen is encompassed by the right of assembly. It clearly does not imply a specific right to listen without distraction.
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No, and as a ticket purchaser you probably have fewer "rights" than before, having now entered into a contract with the playhouse. The owners, however, probably do have rights concerning the management of their business, including maintaining order during the performance.
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Eh, a contract generally bundles a set of "rights" and obligations for both parties, so you get more of both. nb, though: In the narrow/legal sense the "heckler's veto" is using the cops to coerce the theater owner to shut down the performance in the name of public safety.
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How did the cops come into this? Earlier this was about loud mobs.
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It's in the definition of heckler's veto. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler's_veto …
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I was, however, thinking about the discussion in the "common" terms described later in that article.
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I was hazy on the distinction myself until I read up on it. The Current Discourse mashes them together.
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