But this is the rules for thee and not for me argument, Hate Speech is a subjective term, Would you consider it fair, if Conservatives suddenly started considering basic left-wing arguments to be hate speech and then banning them for it?
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Replying to @ElectricLizardz @GearyDigit and
Well the first issue with that, would be that it's not actually hate speech. So no, I wouldn't like it if people started labelling things that aren't hate speech, hate speech.
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Replying to @SortofSalient @GearyDigit and
But again that it my point, Hate Speech is a subjective term, Different people define it in different ways, Twitter is considering many basic Conservative arguments to be hate speech and is using that as an excuse to ban then and i am making the point that...
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Replying to @ElectricLizardz @GearyDigit and
Except that it's not. Hate speech is derogatory or offensive comments on the basis of immutable characteristics towards another person. Sociologists have had a solid definition of this for years now.
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Replying to @SortofSalient @GearyDigit and
Ok if we go on that definition, firstly we would have to define offensive since many people would be offended by different things and then I would ask you to confirm where the line is drawn between joking about things like race and nationality and what would be hate speech
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Replying to @ElectricLizardz @GearyDigit and
I don't care about the line or where it goes. My contention with your statement was that hate speech was subjective. It's not. It's been pretty clearly established by sociologists for a long time what constitutes hate speech. You're playing semantic games.
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Replying to @SortofSalient @GearyDigit and
It is subjective, Ask two random people on the street to define hate speech and you will get two different answers. For example Google defines Hate Speech as "abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group"
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Replying to @ElectricLizardz @SortofSalient and
Under this definition, political groups could be added into the equation of what is considered Hate Speech whereas in the UK it is defined as Expressions of hatred toward someone on account of that person's colour, race, disability, nationality, Under this definition it does...
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Replying to @ElectricLizardz @GearyDigit and
You left out half that definition that doesn't suit your narrative. This is the full definition. "abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation."
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Replying to @SortofSalient @GearyDigit and
That can still include political groups since it says that it mainly especially and not only so on that basis Twitter would be committing hate speech by banning Conservatives on the basis of their politics.
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Can you reasonably demonstrate that banning someone from Twitter constitutes a form of abuse or a threat?
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Replying to @SortofSalient @GearyDigit and
It can certainly have an indirect effect on causing abuse since it means a person can be condemned and lied about on Twitter and they will not be able to rebut it which could have serious Psychological effects
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