I'm not sure the incel argument is inherently misogynistic. They are turning to misogyny because there's no coherent explanation on the left. Maybe an easier way to think about it is female incels. Wouldn't we normally sympathize?https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/opinion/incels-sex-robots-redistribution.html …
I can imagine, resentment and an incel echo chamber online. It's just that arguments have to be separated from the socialized misogyny. A sexual order with privileged wealthy white males at the top of the hierarchy is not my first thought for a leftist posture.
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That’s so not what incels are protesting against. I’m a big fan of the
@okcupid reports about racial bias in dating—but we don’t have any evidence to suggest that incels are not white and affluent. Also, there are better ways to respond to rejection. incels aren’t victims -
Men can support each other emotionally through rejection without drinking the kool-aid of self-victimization.
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It's a mistake to focus on them and their misogynistic response. Because of the taint of how these questions arose, people seem uncomfortable digging deeper. Which is usually my cue to jump in :) As I said in my original post, examine a sexual order that creates female incels.
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I think the concept of “woman incel”—as we currently understand the definition of “incel”—is incoherent. I agree that norms around sexuality question the personal value of those who have reduced access to sex, but don’t agree that a “root cause” analysis justifies incel behavior.
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Well and that's the discomfort that I'm talking about. No one wants to confirm the existence of something that incels will use to justify misogyny. Just winging this topic, but I thought it's involuntarily celibate. Plenty of those women too, no?
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Involuntary celibacy itself is also incoherent.https://twitter.com/mountain_goats/status/989297058782830593?s=21 …
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I’m sorry to be so hard-headed about this, but I think the argument for the justice of desire can easily be separated from the incel conversation. The majority of people who are harmed by inequitable desire politics are not incels.
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It's all good. Misogyny is off-putting, and rightfully so. I like that: inequitable desire politics. Yes, somehow it has to be ok to confirm that there is this phenomenon of inequitable desire, but at the same time deny the incel's misogynistic response and entitlement.
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