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    1. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      Many don't seem to understand why I object to @Telegram having unsafe, censorable public channels in an app that is promoted as a secure messenger. Some presumed I just don't understand how channels work. So let's talk about it:

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    2. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      Background: @Telegram has a special position in Iran. Its "public channels" are an important source of news for many low-tech users. Competing services are often blocked, but Telegram makes concessions to avoid this (like setting up local CDNs https://www.iranhumanrights.org/2017/07/telegrams-efforts-to-increase-download-speed-in-iran-could-aid-state-censors/ … ).

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    3. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      This is both a good and bad thing. On one hand, keeping people who don't understand and will never learn what Tor and VPNs connected to a big and difficult-to-moderate communications ecosystem is valuable, when the government largely has but two moves: "block" or "not block."

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    4. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      On the other, it means @Telegram will face increasing pressure over time to collaborate with the Iranian government's demands for this or that. Today we saw the communications minister demand a big channel be shut down. And here's where we start getting into complexity.

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    5. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      Should Telegram shut one Iranian channel down to preserve access to all the others? Most would say "of course." It's more important to keep that tether to their ecosystem alive, right? They're in something close to a monopoly position, where the fallback for many is unsafe SMS.

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    6. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      If we presume @Durov is acting morally, this might sound like an argument for Telegram to do whatever they can to keep their Iranian presence alive. But this is unsustainable, which he should know: after all, he was forced from Russia for not doing enough favors at Vkontakte.

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    7. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      You can't keep an independent, destabilizing service from being blocked in authoritarian regimes, you can only delay it. So you need to be thinking about how to continuing protecting people by making the service accessible *even after the block.*

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    8. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      And this is where we start getting to my core concerns. @Telegram has for years faced criticisms about the basic structure of its security by prominent cryptographers and technologists. Many defenses rely upon unbroken trust in a central authority (the company). "Trust us."

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      Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      Trust us not to turn over data. Trust us not to read your messages. Trust us not to close your channel. Maybe @Durov is an angel. I hope so! But angels have fallen before. Telegram should have been working to make channels decentralized—meaning outside their control—for years.

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        2. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

          We've seen some improvements, and that's not nothing. But not the revolutionary rework it needs. Telegram still seems to encourage dangerous cloud messaging instead of secret chats. Experts ask "why?" And the answer is "convenience." That's unsafe.

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        3. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

          Governments are becoming more abusive, not less, on the internet, especially in places like Iran, China, and Russia. @Durov said @Telegram has 25,000,000 daily users in Iran. He could be converting them all to 2FA. He could be teaching them how to use Tor bridges. I hope he will.

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        4. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

          Governments learn slowly, but they do learn. There comes a day when it will be too late to fix these problems, and I fear it is sooner than we think.

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        2. André Staltz‏ @andrestaltz 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @telegram @durov

          Hey Edward, I'm curious if you have taken a look at https://www.scuttlebutt.nz  It's been working off-grid for a few years, there's plenty of daily users, and we're constantly building it to the next level. Fully open source, company-less, decentralized.

          1 reply 2 retweets 28 likes
        3. ᴶᵒʳᵃⁿ❈♲⏅‏ @donkeyscience 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @andrestaltz @Snowden and

          @Snowden @andrestaltz + end-to-end encryption without recipient metadata (this is the biggest privacy feature of scuttlebutt imo)

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        2. Fedor Skuratov‏ @teodorix 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @telegram @durov

          Edward, the channels are decentrilized. What exactly you mean by "decentralized" term? The platform wich doesn't have rules at all? No possibility to manage itself? It's total mess and the way to completely lost all of the audience because of hateful, violent and scam content.

          1 reply 2 retweets 6 likes
        3. Mehrdad‏ @mehdadoo 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @teodorix @Snowden and

          That's called freedom.

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        4. Fedor Skuratov‏ @teodorix 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @mehdadoo @Snowden and

          It's not the freedom. It's anarchy. Don't сonfuse them.

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        1. Lilith‏ @lilith2u 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @telegram @durov

          Trust nothing

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        1. anton newcombe‏Verified account @antonnewcombe 31 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @telegram @durov

          did your employer trust you,trust your word?trust that you wouldn’t hand over information? Haha just saying

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        1. CryptoKid‏ @thecryptokidd 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @telegram @durov

          TTP- Trusted Third Parties...The most underestimated threat to our economic freedom. 🌎✌🏻

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        2. Martin Dinov‏ @martin_dinov 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @telegram @durov

          What's a good decentralized and secure messenger in your opion, ideally one with channel/group support?

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        3. Brendan Abolivier‏ @BrenAbolivier 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @martin_dinov @Snowden and

          @matrixdotorg looks like a great challenger imho.

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        1. Ali‏ @elrondd_ 31 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @telegram @durov

          the speed with which certain Telegram channels here in Iran are blocked shows how deep the reach of the government really is.

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        1. Steffen Larsen‏ @zooldk 31 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @aral and

          Xmpp have done this in years now

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        2. soufron‏ @soufron 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @telegram @durov

          this shows the lack of standardization, interoperability and public service mentality in the messenging world... sms might be unencrypted but at least they don't create lock-in situations where you can control and punish people en masse

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        3. Raphaël Jacquot‏ @sxpert1 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @soufron @Snowden and

          Yes you can... the NSA has programs specifically designed for that

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        4. soufron‏ @soufron 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @sxpert1 @Snowden and

          actually, you're right, I forgot sms can be shut down quite easily because it's not over IP... I was thinking about the equivalent of a standard like sms, but over IP... censoring it would prove more difficult without blocking internet access in itself - which can always be done

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