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    1. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      Many don't seem to understand why I object to @Telegram having unsafe, censorable public channels in an app that is promoted as a secure messenger. Some presumed I just don't understand how channels work. So let's talk about it:

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    2. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      Background: @Telegram has a special position in Iran. Its "public channels" are an important source of news for many low-tech users. Competing services are often blocked, but Telegram makes concessions to avoid this (like setting up local CDNs https://www.iranhumanrights.org/2017/07/telegrams-efforts-to-increase-download-speed-in-iran-could-aid-state-censors/ … ).

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    3. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      This is both a good and bad thing. On one hand, keeping people who don't understand and will never learn what Tor and VPNs connected to a big and difficult-to-moderate communications ecosystem is valuable, when the government largely has but two moves: "block" or "not block."

      22 replies 297 retweets 925 likes
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    4. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      On the other, it means @Telegram will face increasing pressure over time to collaborate with the Iranian government's demands for this or that. Today we saw the communications minister demand a big channel be shut down. And here's where we start getting into complexity.

      34 replies 325 retweets 1,003 likes
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    5. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      Should Telegram shut one Iranian channel down to preserve access to all the others? Most would say "of course." It's more important to keep that tether to their ecosystem alive, right? They're in something close to a monopoly position, where the fallback for many is unsafe SMS.

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    6. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      If we presume @Durov is acting morally, this might sound like an argument for Telegram to do whatever they can to keep their Iranian presence alive. But this is unsustainable, which he should know: after all, he was forced from Russia for not doing enough favors at Vkontakte.

      22 replies 287 retweets 942 likes
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      Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

      You can't keep an independent, destabilizing service from being blocked in authoritarian regimes, you can only delay it. So you need to be thinking about how to continuing protecting people by making the service accessible *even after the block.*

      12:38 PM - 30 Dec 2017
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        2. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

          And this is where we start getting to my core concerns. @Telegram has for years faced criticisms about the basic structure of its security by prominent cryptographers and technologists. Many defenses rely upon unbroken trust in a central authority (the company). "Trust us."

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        3. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

          Trust us not to turn over data. Trust us not to read your messages. Trust us not to close your channel. Maybe @Durov is an angel. I hope so! But angels have fallen before. Telegram should have been working to make channels decentralized—meaning outside their control—for years.

          52 replies 458 retweets 1,460 likes
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        4. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

          We've seen some improvements, and that's not nothing. But not the revolutionary rework it needs. Telegram still seems to encourage dangerous cloud messaging instead of secret chats. Experts ask "why?" And the answer is "convenience." That's unsafe.

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        5. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

          Governments are becoming more abusive, not less, on the internet, especially in places like Iran, China, and Russia. @Durov said @Telegram has 25,000,000 daily users in Iran. He could be converting them all to 2FA. He could be teaching them how to use Tor bridges. I hope he will.

          54 replies 584 retweets 1,760 likes
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        6. Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 30 Dec 2017

          Governments learn slowly, but they do learn. There comes a day when it will be too late to fix these problems, and I fear it is sooner than we think.

          52 replies 537 retweets 1,724 likes
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        2. Pavel Durov‏Verified account @durov 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @telegram

          FYI. Thousands of opposition channels are thriving on Telegram, and we don't care what local politicians have to say about it. We enforce rules only if a particular public channel violates our very simple ToS – no public calls for violence, no porn, no copyright infringement.

          54 replies 35 retweets 150 likes
        3. Pavel Durov‏Verified account @durov 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @durov @Snowden @telegram

          And even those limitations we do have are forced on us by the mobile platforms which threaten to kick @telegram from AppStore/Google Play every once in a while for being too libertarian. Realistically, you can't have more freedom than on @telegram in a mobile app for iOS/Android.

          32 replies 26 retweets 109 likes
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        2.  🤖Nariman نریمان‏Verified account @NarimanGharib 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @telegram @durov

           🤖Nariman نریمان Retweeted  🤖Nariman نریمان

          and I don't know why they are actively blocking all Amadnews channels even if that channel is newly created.https://twitter.com/NarimanGharib/status/947197718128201728 …

           🤖Nariman نریمان added,

           🤖Nariman نریمانVerified account @NarimanGharib
          .@durov Why did #Telegram closed the new #Amadnews channel? It didn't violate Telegram's T&C.
          2 replies 2 retweets 24 likes
        3. Telegram Messenger‏Verified account @telegram 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @NarimanGharib @durov

          Telegram Messenger Retweeted Pavel Durov

          This is not the case, please seehttps://twitter.com/durov/status/947226770255818752 …

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          Pavel DurovVerified account @durov
          Replying to @Ammir @telegram
          @amadnews1 had been used as a mirror by the same admin to avoid the consequences of breaking our rules. The admin has opened more mirrors now after the blocking of 'amadnews', which is fine. Only the mirrors existing at the moment of violation get shut down with the main channel.
          3 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
        4. AmiR Rashidi‏Verified account @Ammir 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @telegram @NarimanGharib @durov

          AmiR Rashidi Retweeted AmiR Rashidi

          This is not a clear answer. What I am asking is:https://twitter.com/Ammir/status/947232368422739968 …

          AmiR Rashidi added,

          AmiR RashidiVerified account @Ammir
          Replying to @durov @telegram @amadnews1
          No, I am asking that new channel violet your terms an agreement or not? Just because they have same name and same admin you blocked them even if there is no violation of terms an agreement?
          0 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
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        1. Fedor Skuratov‏ @teodorix 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @telegram @durov

          Most of iranians uses VPN. They will continue to use Telegram. One of my former team members runs a VPN bot http://t.me/socks5_bot  and it have +50k users from Iran in last 2-3 hours. And it's rather small VPN bot compares to other solutions.

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        2. θrΔclΣ‏ @ZugarPlume 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @telegram @durov

          #AI data monitorization

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        3. θrΔclΣ‏ @ZugarPlume 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @ZugarPlume @Snowden

          Though there is this argument...but you can't believe everything that you read 😜👽 No one is safe from internet attacks, and A.I. defenses can't help, Google security veteran sayshttps://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/18/google-security-veteran-says-internet-not-secure-ai-wont-help.html …

          0 replies 3 retweets 4 likes
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        1. Rewind Selector‏ @RewindSelector 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @telegram @durov

          You can use Orbot's Apps VPN mode with @telegram to continue using Telegram *after the eventual block*.https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.torproject.android …

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        2. Ali Kaveh‏ @alikaveh 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @telegram @durov

          We need Snowden app! Build it!

          1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
        3. Manwe‏ @Manwe_sns 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @alikaveh @Snowden and

          Take a look at ZeroNet

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Ali Kaveh‏ @alikaveh 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Manwe_sns @Snowden and

          I did but it doesn’t seem that works for low tech users. Does it?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Manwe‏ @Manwe_sns 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @alikaveh @Snowden and

          I found ZeroNet user friendly. Download, install, browse ZeroNames menu to find interesting sites, start there. You only need to wait a bit to have sites downloaded.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        1. X Soviet‏ @XSovietNews 30 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Snowden @telegram @durov

          Why aren't you blocked in Russia?

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