Many don't seem to understand why I object to @Telegram having unsafe, censorable public channels in an app that is promoted as a secure messenger. Some presumed I just don't understand how channels work. So let's talk about it:
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Should Telegram shut one Iranian channel down to preserve access to all the others? Most would say "of course." It's more important to keep that tether to their ecosystem alive, right? They're in something close to a monopoly position, where the fallback for many is unsafe SMS.
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If we presume
@Durov is acting morally, this might sound like an argument for Telegram to do whatever they can to keep their Iranian presence alive. But this is unsustainable, which he should know: after all, he was forced from Russia for not doing enough favors at Vkontakte.Show this thread -
You can't keep an independent, destabilizing service from being blocked in authoritarian regimes, you can only delay it. So you need to be thinking about how to continuing protecting people by making the service accessible *even after the block.*
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And this is where we start getting to my core concerns.
@Telegram has for years faced criticisms about the basic structure of its security by prominent cryptographers and technologists. Many defenses rely upon unbroken trust in a central authority (the company). "Trust us."Show this thread -
Trust us not to turn over data. Trust us not to read your messages. Trust us not to close your channel. Maybe
@Durov is an angel. I hope so! But angels have fallen before. Telegram should have been working to make channels decentralized—meaning outside their control—for years.Show this thread -
We've seen some improvements, and that's not nothing. But not the revolutionary rework it needs. Telegram still seems to encourage dangerous cloud messaging instead of secret chats. Experts ask "why?" And the answer is "convenience." That's unsafe.
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Governments learn slowly, but they do learn. There comes a day when it will be too late to fix these problems, and I fear it is sooner than we think.
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The channel you just mentioned was spreading violence and hatred till this afternoon.The policy of removing such channels can be found in many other parts of internet too. What do you suggest instead? Anyone in Iran can access any website through VPNs which are widely being sold
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What is your view on CIA controlling other nation politics
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What's your view on secret spying of other country citizens via Social media platforms, email server and country's document like
#AadharCard in India
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Please note that minister's request was based on Telegram terms of service.
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Just in: Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) - 3 minutes ago
#Facebook Says It Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the U.S. and Israeli Governments https://theintercept.com/2017/12/30/facebook-says-it-is-deleting-accounts-at-the-direction-of-the-u-s-and-israeli-governments/ …https://sputniknews.com/science/201712301060438026-dangers-of-facebook-censorship/ …Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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No country would allow this, and we saw shutdowns during the London riots. It's not "complex" at all. It's a matter of national survival considering what's been seen across the Middle East and in Ukraine.pic.twitter.com/0G8HMCEmtF
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Open source and give out the server software
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Is there any international rule
#telegram violates so we can use it against them? They close the second channel that have over 650k followers less than 1 hour, it did not have time to violate anythingThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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Shut up stupid spy you dont need to talk about such things
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I live in Iran and I believe that channel had to be shut down, whether centralized or decentralized. Sometimes spreading fake news can be dangerous but overall, you are right.
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