Many don't seem to understand why I object to @Telegram having unsafe, censorable public channels in an app that is promoted as a secure messenger. Some presumed I just don't understand how channels work. So let's talk about it:
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On the other, it means
@Telegram will face increasing pressure over time to collaborate with the Iranian government's demands for this or that. Today we saw the communications minister demand a big channel be shut down. And here's where we start getting into complexity.Show this thread -
Should Telegram shut one Iranian channel down to preserve access to all the others? Most would say "of course." It's more important to keep that tether to their ecosystem alive, right? They're in something close to a monopoly position, where the fallback for many is unsafe SMS.
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If we presume
@Durov is acting morally, this might sound like an argument for Telegram to do whatever they can to keep their Iranian presence alive. But this is unsustainable, which he should know: after all, he was forced from Russia for not doing enough favors at Vkontakte.Show this thread -
You can't keep an independent, destabilizing service from being blocked in authoritarian regimes, you can only delay it. So you need to be thinking about how to continuing protecting people by making the service accessible *even after the block.*
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And this is where we start getting to my core concerns.
@Telegram has for years faced criticisms about the basic structure of its security by prominent cryptographers and technologists. Many defenses rely upon unbroken trust in a central authority (the company). "Trust us."Show this thread -
Trust us not to turn over data. Trust us not to read your messages. Trust us not to close your channel. Maybe
@Durov is an angel. I hope so! But angels have fallen before. Telegram should have been working to make channels decentralized—meaning outside their control—for years.Show this thread -
We've seen some improvements, and that's not nothing. But not the revolutionary rework it needs. Telegram still seems to encourage dangerous cloud messaging instead of secret chats. Experts ask "why?" And the answer is "convenience." That's unsafe.
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Governments learn slowly, but they do learn. There comes a day when it will be too late to fix these problems, and I fear it is sooner than we think.
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Some of these are already blocked - to a greater or lesser degree - in
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"The government of Iran began blocking access to non-government sanctioned VPNs in March 2013" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VPN_blocking#Iran …
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Many of Iranians uses VPN.
@amadnews ban is more about violation of Telegram own rules and less or completely not about the risk of being banned by Iranian gov. One should be completely dumb or mad to violate simple Telegram policy in mass media channel with 1.3 mln subscribers.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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Happy news!!!!!! Love!!!!
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FELIZ AÑO 2018
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Can you type a little faster please?!
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All my Iranian friends use VPN because "God use VPN", who want to do something what the "Great Leader" dont like know how to protect his telegram conversation
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What is your binary dilemma now. You aren't even addressing organizational psychology that weaponizes tech and moves all sectors under the same destructive paradigm. All the while distracting you and others from purpose-oversight. It works perfectly with human fallibility.
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