Many don't seem to understand why I object to @Telegram having unsafe, censorable public channels in an app that is promoted as a secure messenger. Some presumed I just don't understand how channels work. So let's talk about it:
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This is both a good and bad thing. On one hand, keeping people who don't understand and will never learn what Tor and VPNs connected to a big and difficult-to-moderate communications ecosystem is valuable, when the government largely has but two moves: "block" or "not block."
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@Telegram will face increasing pressure over time to collaborate with the Iranian government's demands for this or that. Today we saw the communications minister demand a big channel be shut down. And here's where we start getting into complexity.Show this thread -
Should Telegram shut one Iranian channel down to preserve access to all the others? Most would say "of course." It's more important to keep that tether to their ecosystem alive, right? They're in something close to a monopoly position, where the fallback for many is unsafe SMS.
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If we presume
@Durov is acting morally, this might sound like an argument for Telegram to do whatever they can to keep their Iranian presence alive. But this is unsustainable, which he should know: after all, he was forced from Russia for not doing enough favors at Vkontakte.Show this thread -
You can't keep an independent, destabilizing service from being blocked in authoritarian regimes, you can only delay it. So you need to be thinking about how to continuing protecting people by making the service accessible *even after the block.*
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And this is where we start getting to my core concerns.
@Telegram has for years faced criticisms about the basic structure of its security by prominent cryptographers and technologists. Many defenses rely upon unbroken trust in a central authority (the company). "Trust us."Show this thread -
Trust us not to turn over data. Trust us not to read your messages. Trust us not to close your channel. Maybe
@Durov is an angel. I hope so! But angels have fallen before. Telegram should have been working to make channels decentralized—meaning outside their control—for years.Show this thread -
We've seen some improvements, and that's not nothing. But not the revolutionary rework it needs. Telegram still seems to encourage dangerous cloud messaging instead of secret chats. Experts ask "why?" And the answer is "convenience." That's unsafe.
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Governments learn slowly, but they do learn. There comes a day when it will be too late to fix these problems, and I fear it is sooner than we think.
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I was one of the first people to promote Telegram in Iran via BBCPersian, ManotoTV after Viber got blocked. At that time we have an alternative option, which was Telegram, Today we don't. Wire and Signal are having some problems with Internet censorship. Do you have any?
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من عمم از تلگرام خیلی استفاده میکنه ، و خب خیلی هم اشنا نیست پس عمه ی منم هست! توهین که نیستش عمه ی خیلی ها هستند
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Lol but even my 83 year old grandmother in Azerbaijan uses telegram and I would definitely consider her low tech
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Moving from Telegram to another platform is easy, the problem is Iranian citizen don't have any other handy app to use, mostly they are using un-safe, un-secure apps and that cause a problem. for activists and others.
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Iran threatened to altogether block Telegram and it looks like they gave up (on principles too), just like
@mozilla on#drm#privacy and many other things.... or@FreedomofPress on free press like@wikileaksThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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They blocked "Amadnews" once again. 600K people followed "Amadnews 2" in few hours. but unfortunately there is not a second choice for Iranian people.
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@Snowden , currently you are working for russians too, just like#Durov, We don`t trust to russian and england moles.#RESTART#ری_استارت#تظاهرات_سراسریThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@Telegram has 180MM users, with 40MM of them in Iran. That can explain the local CDNs?https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-12/cryptic-russian-crusader-says-his-5-billion-app-can-t-be-bought …Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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