My recollection is that WL urgently tied themselves to Snowden after he had already flown to Russia, largely to make themselves relevant.
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I honestly feel bad for how passionately misinformed some are on these things. Like, I don't believe in liberal democracy? What? People feel such a deep allegiance to their tribe that they have forsaken any commitment to truth.
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See, it's disingenuous commentary like this that's so crippling to any sort of honest discussion. The ACLU defends everyone: from civil rights activists to Nazis. That's a good thing, but waving their name as a red shirt says nothing about your own motives and actions.
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You claimed he's a propaganda tool for Russians who also controls his press access. Those were the manipulative, disingenuous statements. Just stop
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Please don't put words in my mouth. I stated the fact that his press access is controlled. Him bringing up the ACLU is a non sequitur that dodges the point: the Russian government needs him to have an air of independence, but they are unambiguously the ones in control.
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That's just.... false.
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Are you really trying to argue that the Russian government—with its state controlled media and established history of murdering journalists and activists—is just hosting him as an act of kindness, with no quid pro quo, implicit or otherwise?
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/05/snowden-criticises-russia-internet-homosexuality …; https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/28/world/europe/edward-snowden-criticizes-big-brother-measure-in-russia.html …;https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/10/star-treks-zachary-quinto-calls-for-return-of-edward-snowden …
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Sorry, but I did ask you a question, and you're choosing to evade rather than respond. That stated, I'm fine pointing out that a token complaint about the Russian government every now and then is pretty hard to read as anything more than the smallest fig leaf of independence.
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This is a sad world, thanks for making it a bit better by opening brainwashed eyes. Grateful!
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I stand with Edward Snowden


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Assange is about to topple and you're going to be the next domino, my friend
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Saw the movie Snowden. Do you think it's fairly accurate?
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