@LuckyPyrate @Snowden We are actually still waiting for first revelation of NSA data pile being used against citizens. In theory? ....
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@AoDespair Even Obama rejects this doctrine. I quote, "Just because we can, doesn't mean we should." -
@AoDespair I've got to go, but caution that though spying has benefits, history reminds us of that it comes at a price. Yours in service, -E -
@Snowden Had to quit to drive my daughter home from grandma's. Now dinner. And it's gotta be way late where you are. Thx for time....1/2 -
@Snowden Will try to conclude on the last points later. We started with small technical stuff, and now cans o' worms popping open and shit. -
@Snowden But this was an interesting discussion on a lot of levels. Thx again. -
@AoDespair@Snowden can’t we get you two guys in a room together & film the discussion? The world could really use such discourse right now. -
@bryontreece@Snowden Never mind filming it. It would be an interesting lunch even off-the-record. For me anyway. -
@bryontreece@Snowden Maybe the NSA and Putin's people will take notes. You could ask them to share. ;)
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@Snowden With regard to your distrinct cite of instances in which NSA has been engaged in domestic LE activity, I could not agree more. -
@Snowden At least in so much as it is awful precedent both legally and politically. It damages the cred of allowing NSA to follow overseas.. -
@Snowden intel back into this country for anti-terror purposes, which to me is a specific & credible function. In fact, I would have given.. -
@Snowden the Pulitzer to Reuters the year that the Guardian/Post won on this stuff for having shown the use of NSA stuff by DEA. However, -
@Snowden let me be clear. The places where mission creep is evident have not yet involved the idea of the data pile that unhinged so many... -
@Snowden Fact is, NSA and LE don't even need to misrep that purpose of that data pile to achieve these other captures. -
@Snowden Ex. I'm a reporter, so I loath the misuse of metadata to scan news orgs. phones & discover sources, as per Holder. Having said so, -
@Snowden a critic noted my tolerance of the data haystack for anti-terror and I explained that if the gov't wanted to chase news sources... - 8 more replies
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@Snowden I don't think a unilateral eschewing of capabilities is possible and to argue for such makes anyone a right proper luftmenschen. -
@Snowden Ex. Right now in S.China Sea one nation is trying hegemonious island building to reclassify previous int'l waters. Another objects. -
@Snowden An ally of the second is using its military assets to gently boundary the first. I sure to hell hope the Chinese/Japanese/Yanks... -
@AoDespair@Snowden it's the vacuum all incl. Merkel, Brazil energy etc. on the non-USP front that is counterproductive on its own terms -
@Hacker_Poker@Snowden Again, I'd like to think everyone isn't trying to listen to everyone else, but I live in this world presently. -
@AoDespair@Snowden I think the primary source nature of the tech changes the reaction of those heard. It's fundamentally diff imho -
@Hacker_Poker@Snowden Probably true. But the moral grayness/elemental necessity of even peacetime spying hasn't changed in centuries. -
@AoDespair@Snowden 1/2 Agreed. Could spy tech be a shift similar from conventional weapons to nuclear? - 2 more replies
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