@Snowden Neither should top-end drug traffickers in the more affluent US. And yet by the time the process trickles to the corner boys....
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@Snowden@AoDespair When the gov't condemns the criticism & revelation of its true workings it has thusly admitted it's tyrannical nature. -
@LuckyPyrate@Snowden if-then proposition is flawed. Not re: criticism, but revelat'n Every gov on Earth must maintain legit sec secrets. -
@AoDespair@Snowden I refer not to revelation in total, but revelation that violates the basic rights of the citizenry must be made known. -
@LuckyPyrate@Snowden We are actually still waiting for first revelation of NSA data pile being used against citizens. In theory? .... -
@AoDespair@LuckyPyrate With respect, this meme is not correct, and repeating it does the public a disservice. And non-USPs have rights too. -
@AoDespair E.g. 1) http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/16/us/eavesdropping-ensnared-american-law-firm.html?_r=0 … 2) https://theintercept.com/2014/07/09/under-surveillance/ … 3) https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2013/08/24/loveint-when-nsa-officers-use-their-spying-power-on-love-interests/ … 4)https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/03/10/surprise-nsa-data-will-soon-routinely-be-used-for-domestic-policing-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-terrorism/ … -
@AoDespair This is not comprehensive, but from memory. Point: NSA has been used against US persons, and (see 4) will be more frequently. - Show more
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@Snowden Just scrolled and saw this, so forgive me replying after we signed off: Yes lies matter. Again, I trained as a journalist...1/2 -
@Snowden Where we might differ is on what a republic should do w/new tech that holds potential legit probative value & also risk of misuse. -
@Snowden 3/3 (it seems) Is metadata a rock so big we dare not lift it? Or can a republic enforce a legal frame. Diff. discussion perhaps.
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@Snowden Obama leans towards Ruling & doesnt have affection of Empirical but likes Dictatorship as a TrendCommieRules @tiksytok15@AoDespair -
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@Snowden@AoDespair I'm offline for 24 hours and you guys have all the fun. Accountability is of course key in a democracy. Power + control -
@Snowden The most liked tweet out of this entire conversation goes to Snowden 189 lastcount.@AoDespair means something don't it.#democracy -
@Snowden@AoDespair can be so generically applied to many govt practices. -
@Snowden@AoDespair Wait. There is a difference between governing and ruling? -
@gjasmusic you readin the@Snowden@AoDespair exchange? -
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@Snowden @tiksytok15@AoDespair@realDonaldTrump does not support Ruling esp a Empirical Infrastructure plus respects terms of service.
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