"The Wire" (2002) is helping the terrorists. David Simon wanted for questioning.https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/711532353684938752 …
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@AoDespair Mass surveillance isn't without *any* value, it's just without value in thwarting attacks -- which was the public justification. -
@Snowden I'm honestly not sure if there is value in accessing haystack with needle or not. Or future capability/efficacy. Really unsure.
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@Snowden We are not equating a court order with a Title III are we? Cuz metadata has never required a full warrant. Nor should it. -
@AoDespair Many disagree. And NSA gets metadata and content in advance of warrant, by virtue of tech. Only use ("targeting") is caveated. -
@AoDespair Lawyers and policy people are comfortable with "trust us," but the record is clear that that's a mistake.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2013/08/24/loveint-when-nsa-officers-use-their-spying-power-on-love-interests/ … -
@Snowden@kansasalps My training is that of a newspaperman. All gov'ts lie, as per IF Stone. And yet they must govern nonetheless. -
@AoDespair The distance between governing and ruling is measured in the capacity to exercise power without accountability. The lies matter. -
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@LuckyPyrate@Snowden if-then proposition is flawed. Not re: criticism, but revelat'n Every gov on Earth must maintain legit sec secrets. - 4 more replies
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@Snowden@AoDespair I really love you both and want this arguing to stop. -
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@Snowden@AoDespair I'm certainly not a "Nobody argues against..." Any type/level of "comms surveillance abates personal liberty for all.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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