...there seem to be literally 0 serious concerns about SD. I imagine that the situation with it would be similar to melatonin which FDA has not approved but everyone knows it's safe and my impression is that it's prescribed by actual doctors?
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Tbh, Matt is right on this one. It's just not a viable option for long term treatment of depression. They feel better for a few hours, finally go to sleep, and then what? They're right back where they started. It's like halting the symptoms of cancer for a day. Sure it's great,
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But it doesn't get at the root of the problem. No skills learned, no pill they can take, just the potential to continue to sleep deprive themselves on occasion which we don't know what will do to them. They certainly won't be able to function in a normal social capacity
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I don't buy this. You could do 3 days of sleep deprivation + 4 days of recovery every week. Feeling not depressed for 40% of the time gotta be incredibly empowering. I don't see why you say "symptoms" and not just "cancer".pic.twitter.com/qg02yxMeFg
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Oh man, i thought we were both still talking abt acute use. If long term use, aside from the social & economic impact, you can look into the health consequences associated with circadian rhythm disruption and shift work. Those entire fields are basically the negative side effect
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any studies that assess *causality* on this?
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Yeah, you can look into some studies on things like sleep restriction and inflammation and circadian misalignment studies are super cool. But as a hint, no IRB is going approve casual TSD studies with things like suicide attempts as outcome measures as it would be unethical
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do you have a study you particularly like on this? re: TSD, i'm sure you can study effects on depression and you will record suicide attempts as a side-effect along with many other important variables...
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I'll poke around a bit when i get some time. And you can except you have to acknowledge the correlational increased risk demonstrated in studies. Best case scenario a ton of red tape, worst case IRB still won't let you do it. Either way the research is not there to recommend it
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as an effective long term solution at this time. This is doubly an issue with cancer research you mentioned. No idea how you'd do that. No IRB is going to let you experimentally manipulate something that even *might* increase risk of cancer
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wow
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