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That's a tad insulting to me as a person, friend. I've been a fan and looking at Garrosh's story for a long while and all I see him as is a tragedy. Sure they could've gone different routes with him but ultimately they went with the most realistic one for him.

I'm standing by the claim. We're all familiar with Garrosh, but I don't know anyone who has dug as deep as Swampgallows did. There are direct quotes from devs saying he was going to have a character arc... which they threw away to make a quick villain. His MoP story was lazy.

What's frustrating about Garrosh though, is that a lot of his development was not surface level, but rather sort of subtle. So for a lot of people, it was a "secret story" that was going to come about in the future. Stonetalon is well-known, but there were other instances. 1/2

And honestly, a character arc that comes out of the shadows and into the forefront can be a really well-done piece. Throwing that away is taking the easy way out. Around Legion, they started trying to retcon out the quiet development to cover their asses. Which is just shady. 2/2

3/2 :P Like, for instance, if you completed Nagrand, Garrosh actually talks WAY nicer to your character. He trusts you and regards you as a friend. If you didn't, you saw his harsh exterior instead. But the special dialogue has largely been removed from the game.

Garrosh in TBC is the biggest outlier for the character. After TBC he went full-blown into his Wrath personality which is honestly Garrosh at his core as a character. That's the Garrosh we saw for the rest of Warcraft.

Wrath Garrosh's quest dialogue actually changed in some zones if you had credit for completing his TBC questline. It doesn't anymore though. He calls you "friend" in one instance. Which, incidentally, makes him the first big NPC to have a personal friendship with the player.

I do ultimately think it's the right call to remove him calling you his friend though. You and whoever that is that you mentioned might disagree with me on that but it makes way more sense to have Garrosh no longer have that mindset.