Skoll Shorties

The only *real* issue I had with BfA was how long it took for the Horde to act. But I understood it from some points of view as to why they didn't do that. At the very least they did have them act it just took them a while to do it. It'd be different if they did nothing.

I think two and a half patches of doing nothing after the literal genocide of a people and the destruction of their home was bad enough, but the fact that the Horde were totally okay with taking hostage and enslaving the elves before that paints a bad picture. Horde done dirty.

When it comes to war nothing is going to be exactly pretty. What Saurfang initially wanted was a much better deal and would've ensured total victory against the Alliance on Kalimdor. For the majority of the Horde that's a good thing.

Is it messed up? Well to us as outside viewers, yeah. But war even in fiction isn't always about good triumphing over evil or vice versa. The Horde taking the whole of Kalimdor can be viewed as hecka bad but it also can be viewed as them winning and getting to thrive.

But yeah. As far as the Teldrassil situation goes the Horde should've acted much sooner and almost immediately after it happened. It didn't sit with a lot of people which is why the Saurfang arc was a lot of people's favorite because -that- was the Horde we wanted.

And once Sylvanas fled and Saurfang died that Horde became possible again.

It just becomes harder to believe that the Horde Saurfang fought for can be a real thing if large swathes of the Horde repeatedly go along with the genocidal figurehead. I'm also not sure how the justification of war not being pretty explains the stuff with Teldrassil.

From an in-universe perspective the justification makes the barest amount of sense and was going to earn a massive reprisal no matter what, not to mention that intentionally going into it with their goals in mind is exceptionally terrible even in-universe.