Skoll Shorties

I mean, I understand why a lot of people are against the idea of Sylvanas redeemed or anything even close to it, but I really value Warcraft's message of "no one is truly beyond saving, they just have to want to change." And if something triggers that in her I'm down for it.

I don't think this message has really been... told or even said in World of Warcraft? If you're a villain you usually and always do pay the price. That's what I personally like about Warcraft. Redemption isn't always guaranteed.

I hadn't finished my thread there. But again, the whole story of the death knights, demon hunters, Forsaken, even the orcs is that you can never undo bad things you've done, but you can change and be better for it.

While I agree with that. I think the same has to be said vice versa. Sometimes people can't change and sometimes people don't want to atone. Sylvanas is the perfect person to give that message.

I mean, I would be perfectly fine with her ending her existence as a villain. But I will never have a problem with someone deciding they want to try and change. There are a lot of people even in my life I suspect will never change, but will always be open if they decide to do so.

That's fine and dandy and I am open to that too. But I just don't think out of anyone who should change Sylvanas doesn't seem like that type of person. We'll have to see and if she does she has to acknowledge the wrongs she's done.

Of course. The whole purpose of deciding to change is the understanding that you have done wrong. Also anduin literally did say that no one is beyond saving, they just gave to want it in BtS. He just put into words one of the major themes of the setting.