Somebody is telling me that Jaina is the worst Character in WoW and that she is evil because of what she did in Dalaran and to Rastakhan. ...Look I'm a Horde guy first and I can tell you that's a bunch of kodo crap.
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Aha yes the brilliant strategy of 'winning' by having your own faction team up with the enemy you literally genocided to take you down because of how terrible you are. And then you have to abandon your position as dictator and flee. I guess definitions of words are fluid to some
There's definitely a difference between surviving a winning. Winning means you accomplished something or achieved something. Sure she accomplished in gathering enough souls to take on the LK but she still failed to rid the Alliance and stop a Rebellion. She failed her faction.
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But did she though? Imo it was pretty clear that she wanted everyone against her, from how she handled Saurfang situation from the start, to Derek, to baine. She wanted the horde/ally to join against her and I'd say she won because she got what she needed out of the war
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The biggest surprise and shock for Sylvanas was when the Forsaken didn't like that she said the Horde was nothing. She definitely wanted more death out of their battle (which would've concluded the Fourth War). She lost in the sense of her Forsaken and the remaining Loyal-Horde.
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Her main goal was to kill as many people as possible to fuel the Maw. I'd say she succeeded on that front. I think that's why people say she "won." Because she accomplished her main goal. She didn't seem to care about being Warchief except in how it served her grander scheme.
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If we're to take her loyalist ending dialog as indication, she was planning to abandon the Horde anyway. She just got forced to do it sooner than expected by Saurfang's rebellion. But that the timing ultimately mattered little in the scope of her main plan.
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