She's definitely lost her victim card privileges after Battle for Azeroth.
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W odpowiedzi do @Skoll_Shorties
Her destiny was to die with honor defending her home. That destiny was stolen by Arthas who broke her so thoroughly so as to be unrecognizable. Holding the Ranger-General responsible for the actions of the Dark Lady is somewhat like telling a veteran with PTSD to 'get over it.'
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W odpowiedzi do @Metsastraja @Skoll_Shorties
It doesnt matter what her destiny is. None but Nozdormu and his kindred are privileged with the knowledge of their death. Pity Sylvannas, but following a dark path that already destroyed you is not something that keeps you a right to pity. Just as those dead NEs dont deserve pity
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Penance is change and attonement. If she was consumed by her failure to save her people, she would not threaten them. If she wished to stop the suffering of the Forsaken, she would not manipulate more people into the existence of one.
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W odpowiedzi do @DruidofLore @Metsastraja
That's the thing when I think about Sylvanas vs Saurfang. Saurfang committed horrible atrocities in his lifetime and he regrets it and -TRIES- to fix it. Sylvanas doesn't in after new life as a Banshee instead of regretting her actions she follows up by doing worse things.
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W odpowiedzi do @Skoll_Shorties
... he turned her into a sociopath. It isn't possible to put those bits back in. Her filters were PERMANENTLY removed. She isn't DECIDING to go from one act of evil to another, her mind in INCAPABLE of self correcting. She can't turn back and it's Arthas' fault. 2/2
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W odpowiedzi do @Metsastraja
The Forsaken have proven otherwise that they are capable of these feelings again. Arthas created the monster but the monster is now without its chains. Sylvanas has even shown in the novels to want to rekindle these feelings but she backs down.
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W odpowiedzi do @Skoll_Shorties
Summing up: Remember how Sylvanas wanted to reconnect with Vereesa but threw away the chance because she was so angry over the failed assassination. She impulsively prioritized hate and violence over love, even though love is what she really wanted most. No more filters.
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W odpowiedzi do @Metsastraja
I'm still going to blame Sylvanas for her actions rather than blaming Arthas for them.
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W odpowiedzi do @Skoll_Shorties
That's fair. And I'm going to keep giving her the benefit of the doubt and hoping for what I would call a 'just' outcome. My empathy settings are obviously pegged at (Anduin++)."
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Yet even Anduin no longer has any empathy left for Sylvanas. So... yikes.
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W odpowiedzi do @Skoll_Shorties
But only because he's being affected by the insidious whispers of the old god as we saw in the cut scene. Why else would he punch his boyfriend in the face.
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W odpowiedzi do @Metsastraja
Okay no. Anduin and (honestly the sane people) the people of Azeroth deducted that Sylvanas was no longer worth saving after the events of Arathi, Teldrassil, and the death of Saurfang. That has nothing to do with Old Gods and their realization that she's too far gone.
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