Well it only takes until 8.1.5 after the events with Baine that Lor'themar finally begins openly telling the player he's wary about the Horde's "dark path." Only took you a year too long as usual dude.
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Lor'themar was already one foot out of the door by the time of 5.1, but we only find out about it in 5.1. Remember Varian's already negotiating with them to join the Alliance, which means his decision happened earlier.
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If you play a troll, thw first time you see Vol'Jin in the starting area, he shows a vision of how he spoke up against Garrosh, and this was Cataclysm. So there definitely was uproar against him from basically the beginning. Now, there is little to none against Sylvanas.
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Saurfang confronts Garrosh even earlier than that, before he's even Warchief in Wrath.
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