Skoll Shorties

Baine himself even demands Sylvanas stop keeping secrets from her advisers unless they removed that. Maybe its less about the other leaders but those in the Horde once they saw Garrosh doing what he did they turned so it could be that.

One thing Horde fans need to understand is that we see these horrible things the Horde does, and keep hearing from Horde fans is that it's not actually happening/somehow things arent what it seems. Some excuse about vague, nebulous context that doesn't exist. And its frustrating.

Donno. It just seems like trying to discuss objective facts about a story from outside of a bias (Which is hard sometimes, sure) is getting harder and harder. And its because Blizzard is stoking this crazy political argument in my video game, and its already terrible in real life

I admittedly while trying am not really neutral in all of this. I'm die hard Horde and that wont change. But that doesn't mean I don't see the faults or the inconsistencies. I just want my Horde that was led by Thrall again really.

I'm totally okay if the Horde wants to be evil. But then really just make them evil. Don't play this game where you're trying to push them as the aggressors and/or evil but then write in all this nonsense contradicting their own story so they don't piss off certain Horde fans.

I think its upsetting for people who've grown a custom to Thrall's or Vol'jin's Horde. Sylvanas' Horde is one going in one direction and then trying to pull back to Thrall's but fail miserably at it.

I mean I think the Alliance is boringly good atm but at least they have a cohesive story and theme, not two completely different and opposite ideas that inherently contradict one another.