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Curious analytical person. SF fan. Settler. Ally. She/her.

Anishinabewaki & Huron-Wendat territory in so-called Ontario
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    1. Tyler Ginn‏ @tylerginn1 31 Dec 2018
      Replying to @Vagitator2 @Maccabeus24 and

      Yes? If it's consensual how could it be a violation? If it's not consensual, it is a violation of her autonomy.

      1 reply . 1 retweet 6 likes
    2. Vagitator‏ @Vagitator2 31 Dec 2018
      Replying to @tylerginn1 @Maccabeus24 and

      Interesting how you say it requires specific consent or it's bodily violation

      1 reply . 2 retweets 8 likes
    3. Tyler Ginn‏ @tylerginn1 31 Dec 2018
      Replying to @Vagitator2 @Maccabeus24 and

      In the context of determining the difference between rape and intercourse, yes.

      2 replies . 1 retweet 5 likes
    4. NastyBaba‏ @LisaWinslow 31 Dec 2018
      Replying to @tylerginn1 @Vagitator2 and

      So, you believe consent to Sex = consent to Pregnancy. You can, but just understand that it is ReligiousIdeology, not reality. Thats your philosophy and no one is stopping you from practicing that. But youve no business applying it to others.

      2 replies . 0 retweets 16 likes
    5. Tyler Ginn‏ @tylerginn1 31 Dec 2018
      Replying to @LisaWinslow @Vagitator2 and

      Please prove up the notion that the belief that consent to sex as consent to pregnancy is religious in any way. It is the natural, foreseeable consequence of the action. That isn't a lynchpin issue, though. A nonconsensual pregnancy still doesn't justify the killing of the baby.

      7 replies . 1 retweet 7 likes
    6. NastyBaba‏ @LisaWinslow 31 Dec 2018
      Replying to @tylerginn1 @Vagitator2 and

      Its the OfficialPosition of the CatholicChurch. 😄 In Humanae vitae, Pope Paul VI appealed to natural law when he restated the traditional teaching that "each and every sex act must remain open to the transmission of life." But it does justify the EndingOfAPregnancy.

      1 reply . 1 retweet 4 likes
    7. Robert Richardson‏ @rcasonr Jan 1
      Replying to @LisaWinslow @tylerginn1 and

      There are many pro-life atheists. You don't have to be religious to know killing children in or out of the womb is wrong.

      4 replies . 1 retweet 8 likes
    8. Pro-Choice Edmonton‏ @blueskies366 Jan 1
      Replying to @rcasonr @LisaWinslow and

      Some atheists have not left their religious upbringing behind. Nor are all atheists critical thinkers.https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/03/28/this-atheists-arguments-for-being-pro-life-make-no-sense-at-all-2/ …

      2 replies . 2 retweets 8 likes
    9. Robert Richardson‏ @rcasonr Jan 1
      Replying to @blueskies366 @LisaWinslow and

      "The secular pro-life position... 1. The fetus is a human being. 2. There is no consistent, objective distinction between "person" and "human being." 3. Human beings possess human rights. 4. Bodily integrity is not sufficient to justify most abortions."

      6 replies . 1 retweet 4 likes
    10. NastyBaba‏ @LisaWinslow Jan 1
      Replying to @rcasonr @blueskies366 and

      A Fetus is human, but not a Person. If its not, then women dont have agency.

      1 reply . 0 retweets 2 likes
      sierra kate deciduous‏ @SierraDeciduous Jan 2
      Replying to @LisaWinslow @blueskies366 and

      #Abortion Biology entails only one option for the zygote-fetus to live, entwining it in a person’s uterus. Both #prolife & #prochoice agree here. But the axioms we build off that are different. 1/7

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        2. sierra kate deciduous‏ @SierraDeciduous Jan 2
          Replying to @SierraDeciduous @LisaWinslow and

          #Antichoice goes with biological determinism. Biology is natural, biology is good, biology is destiny. This pretense is used to hand-wave their next leap, that this informs their personal ethics, the only good basis for a social contract to order society around. 2/7

          1 reply . 2 retweets 4 likes
        3. sierra kate deciduous‏ @SierraDeciduous Jan 2
          Replying to @SierraDeciduous @LisaWinslow and

          What about these deserve credence? How do they get from a biological process to coercing many people to try to carry presumed non-fatal pregnancies to term? Their leaps are informed by their axiomatic paradigms of cis-hetero-normativity, gender roles, femininity, and more. 3/7

          2 replies . 1 retweet 3 likes
        4. sierra kate deciduous‏ @SierraDeciduous Jan 2
          Replying to @SierraDeciduous @LisaWinslow and

          They replace appealing to a God’s authority to twisting science to sounding authoritative. Science is an attempt to accurately describe what happens, not how humans should organize themselves. 4/7

          2 replies . 2 retweets 3 likes
        5. sierra kate deciduous‏ @SierraDeciduous Jan 2
          Replying to @SierraDeciduous @LisaWinslow and

          #Prochoice says the opposite, that zygotes being dependant on being physiologically entwined in another’s body weakens their claim to that body. That the person gestating them has the right to withdraw consent at any time, like they can for any other sharing of their body. 5/7

          2 replies . 1 retweet 2 likes
        6. sierra kate deciduous‏ @SierraDeciduous Jan 2
          Replying to @SierraDeciduous @LisaWinslow and

          #Prochoice makes one assumption, that people’s right to their own body allows them to discontinue consent to its access by others at any time. #Prochoice makes several, begging questions and weaving in fallacies (appealing to nature/emotions, etc.). 6/7

          1 reply . 1 retweet 2 likes
        7. sierra kate deciduous‏ @SierraDeciduous Jan 2
          Replying to @SierraDeciduous @LisaWinslow and

          #Prolife arguments are circular & assume their premises as axiomatic. When #Prochoice questions this they’re gaslit with faulty fallacies, biases, & attacks. #Antichoice avoids (or defects from) at all cost addresing if a gestating person should be “granted” bodily autonomy. 7/7

          1 reply . 1 retweet 3 likes
        8. Pro-Choice Edmonton‏ @blueskies366 Jan 2
          Replying to @SierraDeciduous @LisaWinslow and

          I wonder if the antis realize that personhood can be used to stop home birth, VBAC, and other birthing choices. In addiction, it may deter prenatal care for those with addictions.

          3 replies . 1 retweet 6 likes
        9. sierra kate deciduous‏ @SierraDeciduous Jan 2
          Replying to @blueskies366 @LisaWinslow and

          Lets see where this could go, a zygote personhood got legislated and enforced. What happens to citizens AFAB... > Govt Pop. Census -preg tests? trans-vaginal ultrasound? > Taxes –Decl zygotes as dependents? > Personhood -prob incl zygotes conceived by rape 1/6

          1 reply . 3 retweets 2 likes
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