@SideshowGaming watching your vid on hero bans. Just wanted to add that Siege, which only has hero bans and not picks, and a banned hero goes for both teams, does have a ban meta. Maybe doesn’t change your opinion but seems to be contrary to your explanation
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Obviously in turn that shifts the meta and leads the ban meta to change as well - if people stop scrimming with a hero because it's banned so frequently, eventually the hero will stop getting banned. Not sure whether I agree or disagree with banning in ow, but interesting still.
I could see a situation where this happens but only if a certain hero defines the usual composition (say, Hanzo, way more than he does currently) and the most default first move is to ban the Hanzo if you think your team's is worse.
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Then the teams with good Hanzos get so used to that happening, they figure out the meta without Hanzo and know exactly what they want to ban each time. But the initial premise of a defining hero has to be hit first.
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Generally, I don't think the meta after each initial hero ban will be "solved" because there won't be an obvious first hero to ban each time.
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