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Founder&ex-head of seminal muckraking blog FailedMessiah.Above L to R: Graenum Berger, Baruch Tegegne, Ethiopian Jewish kids, Hillary email citing my reporting.

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    1. Jeffrey R. Woolf‏ @JeffreyWoolf Oct 11

      Jeffrey R. Woolf Retweeted Shmarya Rosenberg

      All of this is an argumentum ex silentio (which opposes standard anthropological findings). It's also totally irrelevant. Judaism requires conversion. Katz' findings are good for over a 2500 year span. Advocating Biblical religiousity are you? Including Moloch worship?https://twitter.com/Shmarya/status/1050407431665344512 …

      Jeffrey R. Woolf added,

      Shmarya Rosenberg @Shmarya
      Replying to @JeffreyWoolf @TuttleSinger
      There was no formal ceremony, no formal conversion process and circumcision for individual male converts in biblical times is unproven. Even in early rabbinic times there was a debate about whether conversion w/o immediate circumcision was valid. (For some rabbis, it was.)
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Shmarya Rosenberg‏ @Shmarya Oct 11
      Replying to @JeffreyWoolf

      Sigh. This is what happens when a religious fundamentalist (although a kind and mild one) tries to make the actual historical & scientific record match rabbinic Judaism's founding myths. The bible is full of people freely cohabiting with & marrying people from other religions. 1/

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    3. Shmarya Rosenberg‏ @Shmarya Oct 11
      Replying to @Shmarya @JeffreyWoolf

      There is no conversion ceremony mentioned. Hundreds of often arcane laws but *silence* on conversion. I suppose you could make your argument work by claiming the bible is imperfect,large chunks of it are lost to us & that the conversion law must be in one of those lost pieces. 2/

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    4. Jeffrey R. Woolf‏ @JeffreyWoolf Oct 12
      Replying to @Shmarya

      There is a principal of legal literature, that which goes with out saying usually does

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    5. Shmarya Rosenberg‏ @Shmarya Oct 12
      Replying to @JeffreyWoolf

      Misapplied here. There are multiple biblical examples supporting the view I stated and none supporting yours. That the bible doesn't say "no formal conversion necessary" when there are multiple biblical examples of just that carries much more weight...1/

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      Shmarya Rosenberg‏ @Shmarya Oct 12
      Replying to @Shmarya @JeffreyWoolf

      than claiming "absence of evidence isn't evidence", especially when you realize early rabbis debated this exact issue. There were multiple views. Some did not hold circumcision to be an integral part of conversion process. There were quickie conversions that were nothing more..2/

      1:26 AM - 12 Oct 2018
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        2. Shmarya Rosenberg‏ @Shmarya Oct 12
          Replying to @Shmarya @JeffreyWoolf

          than quick affirmations of faith with no study necessary, just a commitment from the convert to study after the conversion. No beit din. No circumcision. No immersion. No study. What became standardized in the years after the destruction of the 2nd Temple was not ...3/

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        3. Shmarya Rosenberg‏ @Shmarya Oct 12
          Replying to @Shmarya @JeffreyWoolf

          standardized or universally accepted before it. And the further back one goes in history, the less any specific requirements for conversion exist or are practiced. Fact. 4/

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