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President, Environmental Progress :: Ethical & practical solutions for people & nature :: Time Magazine Hero of the Environment

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    Mike Shellenberger ‏@ShellenbergerMD Apr 10

    Nuclear energy push made French power 12x cleaner than German renewable power push. Potent infographic of 2015 data.pic.twitter.com/MNFjNLRU7K

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      1. manu saadia  🖖 ‏@trekonomics Apr 10

        @ShellenbergerMD I don't know if you're following the French situation - the cost of decommissioning is likely to destroy EDF.

        2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
      2. Mike Shellenberger ‏@ShellenbergerMD Apr 10

        @trekonomics i'm hearing opposite in US

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      3. manu saadia  🖖 ‏@trekonomics Apr 10

        @ShellenbergerMD the EDF situation is particular to France:http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/04d4d886-e6c2-11e5-bc31-138df2ae9ee6.html …

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      4. manu saadia  🖖 ‏@trekonomics Apr 10

        @ShellenbergerMD the issue is not Hinckley point but the future cost of decommissioning - wholesale electricity too low.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. manu saadia  🖖 ‏@trekonomics Apr 10

        @ShellenbergerMD future costs are moving target, turns out decom of old plants takes much longer: eg Brennilis still ongoing after 20 years

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      6. manu saadia  🖖 ‏@trekonomics Apr 10

        @ShellenbergerMDhttp://rue89.nouvelobs.com/planete89/2011/05/12/a-brennilis-la-centrale-nucleaire-est-morte-mais-pas-demantelee-202203 …

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      7. manu saadia  🖖 ‏@trekonomics Apr 10

        @ShellenbergerMD this wouldn't be an issue if EDF could get higher prices on nuclear electricity. but that kind of defeats the purpose.

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      8. Mike Shellenberger ‏@ShellenbergerMD Apr 10

        .@trekonomics I'm fine with some amount of support for zero-carbon but think it should be tech-neutral

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      1. zB ‏@zbrando Apr 10

        @ShellenbergerMD @BenedictEvans you can't show only co2 and not take in account waste and total costs.

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      2. Mike Shellenberger ‏@ShellenbergerMD Apr 10

        @zbrando @BenedictEvans agreedpic.twitter.com/2nxGgliKuy

        2 replies 6 retweets 10 likes
      3. zB ‏@zbrando Apr 10

        @ShellenbergerMD that's better, thanks. What about the costs? @BenedictEvans

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      4. Mike Shellenberger ‏@ShellenbergerMD Apr 10

        @zbrando in US, more exp. than coal/nat gas, cheaper than wind/solar. Key is to treat nuclear fairly @BenedictEvanspic.twitter.com/CJOyf1L60k

        2 replies 2 retweets 3 likes
      5. Mike Shellenberger ‏@ShellenbergerMD Apr 10

        @ShellenbergerMD in europe I believe it's more exp than coal but cheaper than gas @zbrando @BenedictEvans

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      6. Mike Shellenberger ‏@ShellenbergerMD Apr 10

        @ShellenbergerMD & that's just new builds. existing plants incredibly cheap but punished by discriminatory policies @zbrando @BenedictEvans

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      1. Edwin K ‏@edwk Apr 10

        @ShellenbergerMD @BenedictEvans does this take into account handling of the wastes and the risks of old reactors?

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      2. Mike Shellenberger ‏@ShellenbergerMD Apr 10

        @edwk @BenedictEvans tiny amounts of waste, easy to store, and yes, storage cost is included in cost of energy

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      3. Mike Shellenberger ‏@ShellenbergerMD Apr 10

        @ShellenbergerMD @edwk @BenedictEvanspic.twitter.com/cg2pT0jZCn

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      4. redbaron52 ‏@redishbaron Apr 10

        @ShellenbergerMD @ReImagineGas @edwk @BenedictEvans Too simplistic - what about copper. lithium, cadmium, etc

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      5. Mike Shellenberger ‏@ShellenbergerMD Apr 10

        @redishbaron @ReImagineGas @edwk @BenedictEvans those things make solar look even worse. But all data is from DOE QTR

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