@ShellenbergerMD I don't know if you're following the French situation - the cost of decommissioning is likely to destroy EDF.
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@trekonomics i'm hearing opposite in US -
@ShellenbergerMD the EDF situation is particular to France:http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/04d4d886-e6c2-11e5-bc31-138df2ae9ee6.html … -
@ShellenbergerMD the issue is not Hinckley point but the future cost of decommissioning - wholesale electricity too low. -
@ShellenbergerMD future costs are moving target, turns out decom of old plants takes much longer: eg Brennilis still ongoing after 20 years -
@ShellenbergerMD this wouldn't be an issue if EDF could get higher prices on nuclear electricity. but that kind of defeats the purpose. -
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@trekonomics I'm fine with some amount of support for zero-carbon but think it should be tech-neutral - Show more
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@ShellenbergerMD@BenedictEvans you can't show only co2 and not take in account waste and total costs. -
@ShellenbergerMD that's better, thanks. What about the costs?@BenedictEvans -
@zbrando in US, more exp. than coal/nat gas, cheaper than wind/solar. Key is to treat nuclear fairly@BenedictEvanspic.twitter.com/CJOyf1L60k
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@ShellenbergerMD in europe I believe it's more exp than coal but cheaper than gas@zbrando@BenedictEvans -
@ShellenbergerMD & that's just new builds. existing plants incredibly cheap but punished by discriminatory policies@zbrando@BenedictEvans - Show more
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@ShellenbergerMD@BenedictEvans does this take into account handling of the wastes and the risks of old reactors? -
@edwk@BenedictEvans tiny amounts of waste, easy to store, and yes, storage cost is included in cost of energy -
@ShellenbergerMD@ReImagineGas@edwk@BenedictEvans Too simplistic - what about copper. lithium, cadmium, etc -
@redishbaron@ReImagineGas@edwk@BenedictEvans those things make solar look even worse. But all data is from DOE QTR
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