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Attorney. Professor @UofNH. Legal and political analysis @CNN, @BBC, @CBS, @VanityFair, &c. Reps: @FolioLiterary. More: http://sethabramson.net/bio . Views mine.

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    Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 17 Nov 2017

    I just went down the rabbit hole of computer experts analyzing the Franken-Tweeden pic. I'm trying to back away slowly, because a) I don't understand any of it and b) that something isn't right feels like it's clear pretty quickly—but I need to wait until smarter people weigh in.

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      2. Vinny‏ @endp8triarchy 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @SethAbramson

        Anyone who tweets multiple times that they won't weigh in and then do are passive aggressive. Take a stance or don't. This is beneath you.

        3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @endp8triarchy

        I have no opinion on anything that was said in the thread I vaguely alluded to but didn't link to or endorse. I've opinions on things I know—the law—and I've given those 100% transparently. I've also said the picture is grotesque, and Ms. Tweeden has every cause to feel violated.

        3 replies 4 retweets 79 likes
      4. Vinny‏ @endp8triarchy 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @SethAbramson

        Usually when folks have no opinion, they don't share that they have no opinion and then lay out a bunch of words.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      5. Vinny‏ @endp8triarchy 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @endp8triarchy @SethAbramson

        I respect you very much until this point - but if you're going to say you have no opinion - consider shutting the fuck up. Especially as pertains to abuse of women.

        8 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @endp8triarchy

        Cheers.

        0 replies 0 retweets 18 likes
      7. End of conversation
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      2. Katy Otto‏ @exfkaty 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @SethAbramson

        How about this: It's a horrible picture depicting a terrible "joke" predicated on rape culture. He admitted it was wack as all hell. He apologized. He screwed up. Badly. This isn't a GD conspiracy. This is disappointing of you.

        35 replies 6 retweets 130 likes
      3. Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @exfkaty

        Hi Katy, I try to be super transparent on this feed: if I believe a theory has been tested and proven, I say so. If I think a theory is interesting enough to link to, I do so. I didn't do either of those things here—you'll see it if I do. I hope that seems fair to you and others.

        5 replies 8 retweets 344 likes
      4. Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @SethAbramson @exfkaty

        I've written repeatedly on this feed that the picture is grotesque and that the person who was involuntarily put into it has every right and cause to feel thoroughly violated by it. The thread I vaguely alluded to here has absolutely nothing to do with either of those hard facts.

        7 replies 2 retweets 216 likes
      5. Katy Otto‏ @exfkaty 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @SethAbramson

        It feels pretty whataboutism to be honest. But maybe the message you do want to send to folks very passionate about dismantling rape culture - full stop, every chance we can, without equivocating - is that this isn't really the feed for us to follow. It's not by choice to make...

        22 replies 2 retweets 37 likes
      6. Katy Otto‏ @exfkaty 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @exfkaty @SethAbramson

        But as someone who has followed you, I figured it was at least worth letting you know how jarring, alienating and minimizing this signal boost came off. I get that you likely didn't mean it to. But putting energy here, now? I just don't get it.

        11 replies 1 retweet 48 likes
      7. Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @exfkaty

        Hi Katy—I hear what you're saying, it's important, and I've taken it to heart.

        4 replies 2 retweets 98 likes
      8. Katy Otto‏ @exfkaty 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @SethAbramson

        Thanks. Getting all kinds of interesting things from your followers who don't seem to appreciate it when you are questioned. I appreciate you listening. I really would urge you against this kind of stuff. If it's the direction you are...

        5 replies 0 retweets 57 likes
      9. Katy Otto‏ @exfkaty 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @exfkaty @SethAbramson

        Going in with your twitter - the dissection of abusive behavior by men to find the "flaws" in survivors' and victims' accounts - I am going to have to unfollow. The world offers plenty of that already. It is deafening. And it does mean others don't come forward.

        13 replies 0 retweets 63 likes
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      2. Martha Odom‏ @PEandJ 18 Nov 2017
        Replying to @SethAbramson

        This does change the flavor of the Franken saga:pic.twitter.com/Cvq5hEqZkU

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Nola Cherie' King‏ @NolaCherie 21 Nov 2017
        Replying to @PEandJ @SethAbramson

        It shouldn’t matter in the least. That’s why she was on the tour. (Because she was a Playboy Model.) Does that mean she was fair game for the guys to do whatever they wanted?

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. Chase Teeples‏ @nchaseteeples 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @SethAbramson

        #BelieveTheWomen, Seth.

        10 replies 2 retweets 27 likes
      3. Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @nchaseteeples

        I do—100%. Ms. Tweeden said she felt violated by that picture, and not only do I believe her, but will add that she has every cause and right and justification imaginable to feel that way.

        11 replies 2 retweets 130 likes
      4. Chase Teeples‏ @nchaseteeples 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @SethAbramson

        But it sounds like you’re casting doubt on the legitimacy of the photograph. That doesn’t impact Ms. Tweeden’s *feelings* about what happened...

        13 replies 1 retweet 20 likes
      5. Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @nchaseteeples

        The thread in question isn't about whether the the photograph is real. It's only about who had access to it and when. That's a completely different question, man, and even on *that* I have no formed opinion at this point because—like I said—it's above my head.

        16 replies 7 retweets 193 likes
      6. Olav Folland‏ @OlavFolland 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @SethAbramson

        (photographer/IT nerd) A lot of this we can't know, and I'll try to put a Cliff's Notes in layman terms, so it might thread a bit.

        1 reply 1 retweet 14 likes
      7. Olav Folland‏ @OlavFolland 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @OlavFolland @SethAbramson

        Two key terms: EXIF data is added by the camera when the photo was taken. Time + other stuff like camera, + author and other stuff if the camera's set up Metadata is the data added by the file system. What you see when you r/c "properties" on a file/

        1 reply 0 retweets 25 likes
      8. Olav Folland‏ @OlavFolland 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @OlavFolland @SethAbramson

        SO, key EXIF things a pro photog would have are missing- namely name and (c), so the photog can't be identified. But the date stamp exists and is around that time. The other big thing is that the file was modified/saved around the time Al was elected./

        2 replies 1 retweet 35 likes
      9. Olav Folland‏ @OlavFolland 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @OlavFolland @SethAbramson

        but only surfaced now. The gent points out is the EXIF data shows 5:19 12/21/06 not "sleep time" 12/24 as the photo date. What he omits is that camera time is -ish b/c it's set manually. Cross date line & off by a day + time zones/

        1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
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